Let The Special User be the coordinator. I'll be co-coordinator. TSU has
more experience and I want to climb slowly. I'll learn more in the process
too. :)

On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 10:27 PM, Pratik Lahoti <pr4tiklah...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 10:21 AM, Karthik Nadar <karthik...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi Dwaipayan C,
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 1:15 AM, Dwaipayan Chakraborti <
>> dwaipay...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Whatever has happened, do we have any other editor who is somewhat
>>> experienced and willing to take the responsibility of the coordinator of
>>> the weekly collaboration?
>>>
>>> There is not many nominations in the page. Although "The Special User"
>>> could be a good coordinator, apparently he is taking a wiki break. And the
>>> other candidate, Kruttika, I feel does not have enough experience in
>>> en.wikipedia.
>>>
>>
>> I was thinking if both of them can work together as Coordinator and
>> c-coordinator???? Fine? On the process, Krutikka would also learn, and
>> yeah, TheSpecialUser looks for me as the best candidate.
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>>
>>> Anyone else interested?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Dwaipayan Chakraborti
>>>
>>> On Sep 29, 2012, at 8:00 AM,
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>>> >   1. Re: [Wikimedia-in-en] Resigning from the post of volunteer
>>> >      co-ordinator of WP:INCOTM (Ravishankar)
>>> >   2. Re: [Wikimedia-in-en] Resigning from the post of volunteer
>>> >      co-ordinator of WP:INCOTM (Vikram Vincent)
>>> >   3. Re: [Wikimedia-in-en] Resigning from the post of volunteer
>>> >      co-ordinator of WP:INCOTM (Pratik Lahoti)
>>> >   4. Re: [Wikimedia-in-en] Resigning from the post of volunteer
>>> >      co-ordinator of WP:INCOTM (Ravishankar)
>>> >   5. Re: [Wikimedia-in-en] Resigning from the post of volunteer
>>> >      co-ordinator of WP:INCOTM (Ravishankar)
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> >
>>> > Message: 1
>>> > Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 20:29:36 +0530
>>> > From: Ravishankar <ravidre...@gmail.com>
>>> > To: Wikimedia India Community list
>>> >    <wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
>>> > Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Resigning from the
>>> >    post of volunteer co-ordinator of WP:INCOTM
>>> > Message-ID:
>>> >    <caf2qyrcj-02+ocby9rmk+zhgw5pvdxrrtqeq-yplscei8hr...@mail.gmail.com
>>> >
>>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>> >
>>> > Hi Hari, Arun, Pratik, Srikanth, Karthik,
>>> >
>>> > Similar to the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:INCOTM/project, we
>>> > run a project in Tamil Wikipedia called Colloboration of the Week. I
>>> was
>>> > co-ordinating it for few months. When I got busy, I intentionally let
>>> it
>>> > unupdated for a week  to see it picked up by another Wikipedian. He was
>>> > also the guy most involved in this project from the beginning. I asked
>>> him
>>> > if he is willing to take the responsibility and he said yes. That's
>>> it. I
>>> > have seen many such smooth handovers for various jobs done in our
>>> Wikipedia.
>>> >
>>> > In this context, I was surprised why Pratik calls this a "post" and
>>> had to
>>> > send a "resignation note" to the larger mailing list and open
>>> "nominations"
>>> > for successors. May be it is En Wiki practice but I found this too
>>> > complicated for a simple situation.
>>> >
>>> > If one cannot find a suitable coordinator from the members of the
>>> project
>>> > listed at
>>> >
>>> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:INCOTM/Members
>>> >
>>> > I wonder how a newcomer to the project will be fit to coordinate it.
>>> >
>>> > This is a regular Wikipedia activity which is best managed within talk
>>> > pages and project noticeboards. This isn't a photo walk or a Wiki
>>> workshop
>>> > to hope if more people can join us through mailing lists. Even if you
>>> go by
>>> > that logic, if every regional Wikipedia starts mailing this list for
>>> > coordinating on wiki tasks, then it will be total mess.
>>> >
>>> > I respect every one's opinion that mails like these are within the
>>> scope of
>>> > this list. If I continue to find such mails, I will simply unsubscribe
>>> :)
>>> >
>>> > Ravi
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>>> >
>>> > Message: 2
>>> > Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 20:53:30 +0530
>>> > From: Vikram Vincent <vincentvik...@gmail.com>
>>> > To: Wikimedia India Community list
>>> >    <wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
>>> > Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Resigning from the
>>> >    post of volunteer co-ordinator of WP:INCOTM
>>> > Message-ID:
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>>> >
>>> > Hi,
>>> >
>>> > On 28 September 2012 20:29, Ravishankar <ravidre...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> I respect every one's opinion that mails like these are within the
>>> scope of
>>> >> this list. If I continue to find such mails, I will simply
>>> unsubscribe :)
>>> >
>>> > Several communities which function online use the mailing list as the
>>> > primary source of communication and coordination. Ideally, the Wiki
>>> > talk/coordination pages could/should be used for such activities but
>>> > the downside is that a person has to be subscribed to individual page
>>> > updates to be able to know that some discrete activity has happened
>>> > and this is feasible for only expert wiki contributors and I am not
>>> > sure if we are yet at that ideal level of expertise.
>>> > Further, Wikipedia works on the community model and as you have
>>> > acknowledged most wikipedians on this list are not averse to such
>>> > mails.  There is also a delete option in our email clients which allow
>>> > us to delete mails which we do not want to read.  I hope you can
>>> > appreciate this and take a decision which is best suited for your
>>> > interests.
>>> > Thank you for your patience.
>>> > With warm wishes,
>>> > Vikram Vincent
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ------------------------------
>>> >
>>> > Message: 3
>>> > Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 20:54:23 +0530
>>> > From: Pratik Lahoti <pr4tiklah...@gmail.com>
>>> > To: Wikimedia India Community list
>>> >    <wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
>>> > Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Resigning from the
>>> >    post of volunteer co-ordinator of WP:INCOTM
>>> > Message-ID:
>>> >    <CACBdSKpEZfY=uJvi0v4BOn_q0=jec6joqs2a8d_f22j7aab...@mail.gmail.com
>>> >
>>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>> >
>>> > Hi Ravishankar,
>>> >
>>> > On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 8:29 PM, Ravishankar <ravidre...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Hi Hari, Arun, Pratik, Srikanth, Karthik,
>>> >>
>>> >> Similar to the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:INCOTM/project, we
>>> >> run a project in Tamil Wikipedia called Colloboration of the Week. I
>>> was
>>> >> co-ordinating it for few months. When I got busy, I intentionally let
>>> it
>>> >> unupdated for a week  to see it picked up by another Wikipedian. He
>>> was
>>> >> also the guy most involved in this project from the beginning. I
>>> asked him
>>> >> if he is willing to take the responsibility and he said yes. That's
>>> it. I
>>> >> have seen many such smooth handovers for various jobs done in our
>>> Wikipedia.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> > I'm not much aware of how the project in Tamil Wikipedia functions.
>>> Well,
>>> > INCOTM on en.wiki is something huge. The reason I sent out this mail on
>>> > this mailing list (after getting approval from Ashwin Baindur) was to
>>> > inform the larger community. I feel sad to repeat the same thing again
>>> and
>>> > again. Also, my method of working is different from yours. I feel that
>>> I
>>> > should not just "handover", but ask everyone if they wish to apply for
>>> the
>>> > post. If yes, let the people who are participating in the COTM's vote
>>> for
>>> > them. This is how I work and will continue to work in the future,
>>> seeking
>>> > everyone's opinion.
>>> >
>>> > I could have easily called up any of my friends and they would have
>>> agreed.
>>> > But someone might be interested as well and would feel bad later on not
>>> > even being asked whether he/she wants to apply.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> In this context, I was surprised why Pratik calls this a "post" and
>>> had to
>>> >> send a "resignation note" to the larger mailing list and open
>>> "nominations"
>>> >> for successors. May be it is En Wiki practice but I found this too
>>> >> complicated for a simple situation.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> > If you dint like those words, I'm sorry.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> If one cannot find a suitable coordinator from the members of the
>>> project
>>> >> listed at
>>> >>
>>> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:INCOTM/Members
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> I wonder how a newcomer to the project will be fit to coordinate it.
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> > We are in the process of finding one. Hold on.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >> This is a regular Wikipedia activity which is best managed within talk
>>> >> pages and project noticeboards. This isn't a photo walk or a Wiki
>>> workshop
>>> >> to hope if more people can join us through mailing lists. Even if you
>>> go by
>>> >> that logic, if every regional Wikipedia starts mailing this list for
>>> >> coordinating on wiki tasks, then it will be total mess.
>>> >>
>>> >> Look, I'm short of time and sending on this list gives me no pleasure.
>>> > There was a reason and a motive behind this, which I and other members
>>> have
>>> > been repeatedly telling you.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> I respect every one's opinion that mails like these are within the
>>> scope
>>> >> of this list. If I continue to find such mails, I will simply
>>> unsubscribe :)
>>> >>
>>> >> Even I respect your opinion, and I mean it. But I find this
>>> conversation
>>> > is going somewhere else. The purpose was to get a new co-ordinator.
>>> But we
>>> > are discussing what should be on this list and what should not.
>>> >
>>> > I leave this conversation, peacefully.
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Warm Regards,
>>> > *Pratik Lahoti*
>>> > User:BPositive <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BPositive>
>>> >
>>> > *Speak less, work more....*
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>>> >
>>> > Message: 4
>>> > Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 21:48:18 +0530
>>> > From: Ravishankar <ravidre...@gmail.com>
>>> > To: Wikimedia India Community list
>>> >    <wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
>>> > Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Resigning from the
>>> >    post of volunteer co-ordinator of WP:INCOTM
>>> > Message-ID:
>>> >    <CAF2QyrDwgwK_F+gd7QS1cpXFye_fhnnequ=+pye4ywy_jvq...@mail.gmail.com
>>> >
>>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>> >
>>> >> Several communities which function online use the mailing list as the
>>> >> primary source of communication and coordination. Ideally, the Wiki
>>> >> talk/coordination pages could/should be used for such activities but
>>> >> the downside is that a person has to be subscribed to individual page
>>> >> updates to be able to know that some discrete activity has happened
>>> >> and this is feasible for only expert wiki contributors and I am not
>>> >> sure if we are yet at that ideal level of expertise.
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> > Isn't English Wikipedia the most sophisticated and evolved one?  Hint:
>>> > Watch list.
>>> >
>>> > If someone is not actively following a project, then how is he fit to
>>> > coordinate it?
>>> >
>>> > Further, Wikipedia works on the community model and as you have
>>> >> acknowledged most wikipedians on this list are not averse to such
>>> >> mails.  There is also a delete option in our email clients which allow
>>> >> us to delete mails which we do not want to read.  I hope you can
>>> >> appreciate this and take a decision which is best suited for your
>>> >> interests.
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> > I wouldn't have brought up this conversation if this was just a spam
>>> issue.
>>> > I simply felt that coordinating an on-wiki task through mailing list
>>> is not
>>> > a best practice.
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>>> >
>>> > Message: 5
>>> > Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 21:54:10 +0530
>>> > From: Ravishankar <ravidre...@gmail.com>
>>> > To: Wikimedia India Community list
>>> >    <wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
>>> > Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Resigning from the
>>> >    post of volunteer co-ordinator of WP:INCOTM
>>> > Message-ID:
>>> >    <CAF2QyrA0u=Dg28VTe_ge=Z2v3ERGhLco6-Ga3O=7ze61oux...@mail.gmail.com
>>> >
>>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>> >
>>> >> I'm not much aware of how the project in Tamil Wikipedia functions.
>>> Well,
>>> >> INCOTM on en.wiki is something huge. The reason I sent out this mail
>>> on
>>> >> this mailing list (after getting approval from Ashwin Baindur) was to
>>> >> inform the larger community. I feel sad to repeat the same thing
>>> again and
>>> >> again. Also, my method of working is different from yours. I feel
>>> that I
>>> >> should not just "handover", but ask everyone if they wish to apply
>>> for the
>>> >> post. If yes, let the people who are participating in the COTM's vote
>>> for
>>> >> them. This is how I work and will continue to work in the future,
>>> seeking
>>> >> everyone's opinion.
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> > This is not how I work or you work. It is about how a wiki should
>>> work. I
>>> > quoted my experience to provide a context for my mail. Aren't there
>>> 100s of
>>> > projects / elections running in En Wiki? Does everyone use mailing
>>> lists?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> I could have easily called up any of my friends and they would have
>>> >> agreed. But someone might be interested as well and would feel bad
>>> later on
>>> >> not even being asked whether he/she wants to apply.
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> > I am sorry that you didn't get the point yet. Where is the point of
>>> feeling
>>> > bad when you can do it on-wiki transparently and everyone can see it?
>>> > Nomination is a needless procedure but still it is ok if you wanted to
>>> > follow a procedure.
>>> >
>>> > This is a regular Wikipedia activity which is best managed within talk
>>> >>> pages and project noticeboards. This isn't a photo walk or a Wiki
>>> workshop
>>> >>> to hope if more people can join us through mailing lists. Even if
>>> you go by
>>> >>> that logic, if every regional Wikipedia starts mailing this list for
>>> >>> coordinating on wiki tasks, then it will be total mess.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Look, I'm short of time and sending on this list gives me no
>>> pleasure.
>>> >> There was a reason and a motive behind this, which I and other
>>> members have
>>> >> been repeatedly telling you.
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> > May be if I start sending mails about everyday activities in Tamil
>>> > Wikipedia, then you will understand the issue. There are many Tamils
>>> here
>>> > who are not in Tamil Wikipedia. So, may be we too will have a good
>>> chance
>>> > to find good volunteers :)
>>> >
>>> > But we are discussing what should be on this list and what should not.
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> > Is discussing that beyond the scope of this list :)
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >> I leave this conversation, peacefully.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> > Ditto :)
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>>
>>
>> --
>> Thanks and regards,
>> (User:Karthikndr <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Karthikndr>)
>> *Karthik Nadar.*
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> I agree with Karthik. No hard and fast rule of having a single
> co-ordinator. We can go for two. But lets decide fast.
> Krutikaa, I believe has extremely good communication skills and
> TheSpecialUser is a fantastic Wikipedian! Both working together, might work
> out, in my opinion. If others agree to the same, I'll send them an email
> informing them about the same.
>
> --
> Warm Regards,
> *Pratik Lahoti*
> User:BPositive <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BPositive>
>
> *Speak less, work more....*
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