Dear Sunil,

My last mail was delivered after your reply, almost at same time. Sorry for
connfusion.



> *This month, we are reimbursing the Chapter EC travel and related
> expenses* .........*It is only happy coincidence that they were also
> organising
> a meeting in Bangalore during those dates.
> *


Interesting coincidence(?).




Regards,
Niranjan Patel


On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Sunil Abraham <su...@mahiti.org> wrote:

> Dear Abhishek,
>
> CIS is not supporting travel expenses for Chapter EC meetings. Nor has
> CIS provided funding to the Chapter so far from the Wikipedia grant.
> CIS has provided in-kind support to the Chapter in previous financial
> years for ex. society registration costs and the costs of their
> financial adviser during their first financial year. We strongly
> suppor
>
> This month, we are reimbursing the Chapter EC travel and related
> expenses because the Chapter EC has kindly consented to support a
> training programme that CIS is organising for it's A2K team in
> Bangalore. It is only happy coincidence that they were also organising
> a meeting in Bangalore during those dates. I was not aware of this
> when I reached out to the EC and asked for their support us.
>
> Dear Friends,
>
> In the first week of March, we hope to release a 6-monthly report of
> the utilization of the grant so far. Usually we only provide an annual
> consolidated report for all grants at the ledger group level. But for
> this particular grant we will increase the degree of transparency to
> address concerns of the community. If you have any suggestions on how
> we should structure this report or if you have any further questions
> about how CIS is spending the grant allocated do not hesitate to ask
> me.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Sunil
>
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Training of CIS-A2K team on 23 or 24 of February
> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 10:48:42 +0530
> From: Sunil Abraham <su...@cis-india.org>
> To: Wikimedia India EC <wikimedia-in-e...@lists.wikimedia.org>
>
> Attn:
>  Sudhanwa Jogalekar
>  Karthik Nadar
>  Anirudh Singh Bhati
>  Nikita Belavate
>  Pranav Curumsey
>  Srikanth Ramakrishnan
>  Viswa Prabha
>
> Dear Members of the Wikimedia India EC,
>
> Hope 2013 has gotten of to an excellent start for all of you.
>
> CIS is organising a training for the A2K team on the 22nd, 23rd and 24th
> of February in Bangalore. The new Programme Director - Vishnu Vardhan
> will also be attending this event. We would like the EC to spend one day
> training the team on a variety of issues. We would prefer if you opt for
> either 23rd or the 24th as we have some other trainers that have
> confirmed for the 22nd.
>
> CIS will cover air travel and accommodation for all EC members. CIS will
> also provide per diem for meals that are not provided during the
> training. Unfortunately, we don't have a separate budget for fees.
>
> This idea has been discussed with Anasuya Sengupta and Jessie Wild at
> the Wikimedia Foundation and they have supported it.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Sunil
>
> On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 1:08 AM, Abhishek Suryawanshi
> <i.abhishek.suryawan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Sunil,
> >
> > Could you please share information about CIS supporting Chapter Travel
> > expenses?
> >
> > And Its nice and positive move, Great to see CIS continues to support
> > movement in India.
> > Volunteers can devote their time in doing activities and CIS can support
> as
> > per request.
> >
> > As Chapter is shy/silent about acknowledging funding from CIS - Hope so
> your
> > reply will clarify that CIS is there to support Chapter activities
> > irrespective of criticism.
> >
> >
> > Keep Supporting, Keep Inspiring! :)
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Abhishek Suryawanshi,
> > On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ________________________________
> >>> From: Srikanth Ramakrishnan <srik.r...@wikimedia.in>
> >>>
> >>> To: Wikimedia India Community list <
> wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, 12 February 2013 11:31 PM
> >>>
> >>> Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] why to donate
> >>>
> >>> Membership under processing is differnt from memvership alreadt
> >>> processed. INDI-31 is non existant and will remain so.
> >>>
> >>> As for CIS funding, you still havwn't said where you have got the
> >>> "information" from.
> >>> The Chapter has alwaya made things public and will xontinue to do so.
> If
> >>> the CIS funds us, it will be madw public.
> >>>
> >>> n Tuesday, February 12, 2013, Abhishek Suryawanshi
> >>> <i.abhishek.suryawan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Dear Srikanth,
> >>> > I appreciate you keep a check of the Chapter Membership List. But at
> >>> > the same time I guess you will also respect the Chapter President's
> word. I
> >>> > have had a talk with Sudhanwa (President,Wikimedia India Chapter)
> and just
> >>> > two days back he informed me that my Chapter-membership is being
> proceed. I
> >>> > would like you to have or increase your communications with other EC
> members
> >>> > (or at-least with President) before claiming me or anybody else with
> >>> > allegations such as a 'Cheat' :)
> >>> >
> >>> > P.S : How does it affects my query about CIS funding chapter's travel
> >>> > for Board meeting or not ?
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Regards,
> >>> > Abhishek Suryawanshi,
> >>> > On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 10:50 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan
> >>> > <srik.r...@wikimedia.in> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > Just to  inform you that Abhishek Suryawanshi, who claims to be a
> >>> > Chapter Member with membership number INDI-31 is NOT a member. The
> >>> > entry currently doesn't exist in our membership list. Mr. Suryawanshi
> >>> > was a member of the Chapter during the earlier Financial Year and did
> >>> > NOT renew his membership. I hope the community is now aware of what
> >>> > kind of people it is dealing with.
> >>> >
> >>> > On 2/12/13, Abhishek Suryawanshi <i.abhishek.suryawan...@gmail.com>
> >>> > wrote:
> >>> >> *@Karthik - *
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> *If you have a question, you can ask it in the form of a question *
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Why Chapter is denying/ignoring fact flight tickets for members are
> >>> >> covered
> >>> >> by third party?
> >>> >>
> >>> >>  *instead **of making unsubstantiated claims on a public mailing
> >>> >> list,*
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Do you mean to say 'CIS is supporting' part is unsubstantiated? Then
> >>> >> please
> >>> >> state who is covering travel expenses?
> >>> >>
> >>> >> *which is frankly unproductive since it requires us to spend time to
> >>> >> send
> >>> >>> out clarifications.  *
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Could you please elaborate 'unproductive' term and 'sending out
> >>> >> clarification' part? What clarification is given? On contrary You
> are
> >>> >> putting up efforts to blur whole situation.
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> *@Sudhanwa - *
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> *> 2)Major Chapter Expenses such as Flight Tickets for AGM are
> covered
> >>> >> by
> >>> >>> CIS.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Absolutely wrong information you have go*t.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> AGM word is wrong and Board Meeting is correct, right? Please
> correct
> >>> >> if
> >>> >> wrong.
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> *> I am waiting for someone to answer simple query - How much money
> is
> >>> >>> required
> >>> >>> > for next year activities? and Which activities are planned?
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Grant requests are always on public wiki and the numbers are always
> >>> >>> open to all for discussions. You will find these details in the
> >>> >>> upcoming requests. Asaf has already indicated the same on the list.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> If you have any activities planned, please let us know. We will
> plan
> >>> >>> the resources accordingly (budgets, people etc) Same request also
> >>> >>> goes
> >>> >>> to all the people in the community. Please let us know what you
> want
> >>> >>> to do. We are here to support you in whatever best way we can. Do
> not
> >>> >>> hesitate to ask for suppo*rt.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> It seems you are missing out whole point, I am talking about fixed
> >>> >> expenses
> >>> >> and 'possible' activities. Like Board meeting travel expenses. Which
> >>> >> can be
> >>> >> covered and are (already) getting covered by third parties like CIS.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> So it makes more sense to spend volunteer efforts on outreach kind
> of
> >>> >> activities than running for money? specially when third parties are
> >>> >> interested in supporting financially?
> >>> >>
> >>> >> When CIS is wrong, there is hard criticism, and when they support
> >>> >> financially - I guess there could be minimum acknowledgement?.
> >>> >> I think CIS may help chapter to cover other expenses also if needed.
> >>> >> So
> >>> >> Chapter can focus on productive outreach and activities?
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> *@Dhaval - *
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> *> 1)Chapter is having 1.5 Lack+ Rupees in existing account. *
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> *And what do you think could be done by that HUGE AMOUNT of 1.5+
> >>> >>> Indian
> >>> >>> Rupees?*
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> *I think chapter has its office in Bangalore and based on my
> >>> >>> experience,
> >>> >>> I know that any property requires paying off few bills, e.g.
> >>> >>> electricity,
> >>> >>> water, property tax, tel/internet (if it has got) and these things
> >>> >>> are
> >>> >>> not
> >>> >>> so cheap in Today's India as they were in my days of teen (20 years
> >>> >>> ago).*
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> That is base amount, Someone from Chapter might be able to answer
> >>> >> exact
> >>> >> fixed expenses? Its always easy to find 'in-kind' donations as
> >>> >> compared to
> >>> >> cash. Its difficult specially when tax exemption is missing. And it
> >>> >> might
> >>> >> need extra efforts to run for money.
> >>> >> And why? There are people/organization which are taking care of
> >>> >> expenses
> >>> >> already!
> >>> >>
> >>> >> These expenses can be covered easily if there is clarity on 'what is
> >>> >> needed'.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> I have already explained 'in-kind' donation concept, Please see :
> >>> >> http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Srikanth Ramakrishnan
> >>> Member of the Executive Committee
> >>> Wikimedia Chapter [India]
> >>>
> >>> Donate to the Wikimedia India Chapter today
> >>>
> >>>
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