Dear all,

To set right the facts straight, please let me explicitly state the
following for the information of you all:

1. I have been using internet and e-mail systems since 1994-1995. Since
then until now, *not even once*, I have used the freedom to send a mail to
any person or lists in a way not disclosing my singular and true identity.

2. I have not sent any mails to this or any other lists as 'Zakas' or
whatever names. Usually I send very few and only absolutely necessary mails
to Wikimedia lists (except perhaps for ml-community). Even after becoming
an EC member, I have always restrained to limit my mails as we have
assigned specific EC members for public relations and communications. That
is, I deem that shouldering the responsibility of an EC member, one is
further constrained to write (even personal) mails to the lists as much as
one would like to.

3. Abiding the standard code of conduct to its fullest meaning, I have not
communicated, disclosed or discussed any such matters that should be dealt
within or by the EC under the purview of its collective responsibility to
any undue third parties. I have also not prompted anyone else either to act
on his own or as a proxy to carry out any missions.

I must also state it clear and loud that, as a person, I have no monitory,
social or political interests that conflict with my assumed
responsibilities within the EC or chapter. In being or serving as a chapter
member (or as its extended functionary), my sole aim is to upkeep the
mission and motto of Wikipedia and to effectively utilize the opportunities
and resources it allows and provides for the betterment of the community.
Therefore, *I DO NOT NEED TO ENGAGE IN ANY CLANDESTINE OR UNETHICAL
ACTIVITIES WHILE BEING AN EC MEMBER OR CHAPTER MEMBER!*



Please allow me to write these rather silly lines more on a list which I
always consider serious and subject-worthy. My apologies for the same in
advance.


Dear Pradeep,

Is just withdrawing an accusation of that degree enough?

I STRONGLY DEMAND AN OUTRIGHT APOLOGY FROM YOU, THROUGH THIS VERY MAILING
LIST, as this could heavily damage my reputation and stature henceforth
both at a personal capacity as well as a responsible member of the current
WMIN EC.

I must also remind you that either your criminology and cyber-investigation
lessons were quite bad, or your 'teachers' were quite unprepared. Or
perhaps, you did not carry out your overnight homework exercises  carefully.

It is quite funny how you could have arrived such  laughable conclusions
considering the following reasons:

1. Do I really call 'Moksh' as 'Moksha'? I don't think so. Did SOMEONE ELSE
tell you so? Then, could it be that you were taken for a ride by those
someone else?

2. Now, if someone else did not tell this (non-fact), how did you come to
know of such a peculiar 'disorder' that I seem to have? Did we even talk to
each other after a face-to-face (and very friendly) meet on 3rd of May 2012
(at Kerala Sahitya Academy compound, Thrissur)? Have we even ever spoke
through phone or any other voice channels (or even mails)? Except for 3rd
May 2012, Do I even know you personally? And then, did I even knew a person
called 'Moksh' (or 'Moksha'), worthy of a subject of interest until the
recent elections (or at the least, until I actually got involved with the
chapter business  last October)?

3. The next possibility is that I could have possibly written his name as
'Moksha' somewhere in a mail list or wiki page. Can you EVER SHOW ANY PAGE
OR EVEN PRIVATE MAIL where I have used the term 'Moksha'?

So, having done a serious wrong, I demand you to immediately offer your
apologies (to me as well as the list for having misled them,) right through
this mailing list!


With the above statements and demand,
I remain.

-Viswanathan Prabhakaran
 (User:Viswaprabha)
Member,
Executive Committee,
Wikimedia India Chapter.



On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Pradeep Mohandas <prad2...@yahoo.com>wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I seem to have sent it to Viswa alone. Resenting.
>
> Pradeep
>
> Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPhone
>
>  ------------------------------
> * From: * Pradeep Mohandas <prad2...@yahoo.com>;
> * To: * viswapra...@gmail.com <viswapra...@gmail.com>;
>  * Subject: * Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Few concerns
> * Sent: * Wed, Sep 25, 2013 4:44:01 AM
>
>   Hi Vishwa,
>
> I am happy that this is now publicly recorded. I withdraw my accusation
> forthwith.
>
> I would also like to step down from the position of the GLAM SIG chair
> forthwith. I am happy to help in GLAM related activities where ever needed.
> I think others will do more justice to this position as I have been able to.
>
> In addition, I have found out now that my employee, State Bank of India,
> with which the Chapter maintains a bank account does not allow me to hold
> this position as a point of conflict of interest. I am not allowed to be on
> the Executive or head committees within a non profit which has a
> relationship with the Bank.
>
> Warm regards,
> Pradeep Mohandas
>
> Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPhone
>
>  ------------------------------
> * From: * ViswaPrabha (വിശ്വപ്രഭ) <viswapra...@gmail.com>;
> * To: * Pradeep Mohandas <prad2...@yahoo.com>; Wikimedia India Community
> list <wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>;
> * Subject: * Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Few concerns
> * Sent: * Wed, Sep 25, 2013 4:12:21 AM
>
> Did I read and understand that absolutely correctly!
>
> If so, this is a huge accusal!
>
> Please come to your senses before doing such horrendous accusations!
>
> I would never (or am or will be planning) to send any mail messages to ANY
> public (or private) lists other than from my own proven identities!!! TAKE
> IT FOR GRANTED!
>
> Indeed, your baseless and mean assumption calls for severe actions!
>
> -Viswam
> User:Viswaprabha
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 8:37 AM, Pradeep Mohandas <prad2...@yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>> hi,
>>
>> this is with reference to this email -
>> http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2013-September/010415.html,
>> sent by "Zakaas Zakaas". the text of the email was scrubbed as HTML. The
>> content of the text is here -
>> http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/attachments/20130915/a6cebef4/attachment.html
>>  reproduced
>> below:
>>
>> "
>> While the new ECs are still deciding the new office bearers, there are some 
>> observations which are of serious concern. It is known fact that 
>> Karthik(secratory) is employee of Moksha(president) and Pranav is 
>> employee/consultant to Moksha</p>
>>
>> In the true spirit of wikipedia, where transparancy is atmost important, and 
>> conflict of interests are taken seriously, have these<br />people given any 
>> disclaimer about this information (employee, employer relationship) in 
>> advancIt will be nice to know the concern people stand regarding this matter.
>>
>> It is interesting to note that while the author asks for transparency, he
>> is not transparent himself. Let us assume that the alias is taken for the
>> sake of revealing this "truth". Unfortunately, just using the alias is
>> insufficient, in my opinion. One must also be able to mask one's partiality
>> to the language one uses for the mask to be complete.
>>
>> In this case, I can easily identify the author as Viswaprabha. He's the
>> only person I know of who calls Moksh Moksha.
>>
>> Pradeep Mohandas
>> How Pradeep uses email? - http://goo.gl/6v1I9
>>
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