My message is inline.
How Pradeep uses email? - http://goo.gl/6v1I9
On Wednesday, 25 September 2013 5:15 PM, ViswaPrabha (വിശ്വപ്രഭ)
To set right the facts straight, please let me explicitly state the following
for the information of you all:
I have been using internet and e-mail systems since 1994-1995. Since then
until now, not even once, I have used the freedom to send a mail to any person
or lists in a way not disclosing my singular and true identity.
have not sent any mails to this or any other lists as 'Zakas' or
whatever names. Usually I send very few and only absolutely necessary mails to
Wikimedia lists (except perhaps for ml-community). Even after becoming
an EC member, I have always restrained to limit my mails as we have
assigned specific EC members for public relations and communications.
That is, I deem that shouldering the responsibility of an EC member, one
is further constrained to write (even personal) mails to the lists as
much as one would like to.
3. Abiding the standard code of
conduct to its fullest meaning, I have not communicated, disclosed or
discussed any such matters that
should be dealt within or by the EC under the purview of its collective
responsibility to any undue third parties. I have also not prompted
anyone else either to act on his own or as a proxy to carry out any missions.
I must also state it clear and loud that,
as a person, I have no monitory, social or political interests that
conflict with my assumed responsibilities within the EC or chapter. In
being or serving as a chapter member (or as its extended functionary),
my sole aim is to upkeep the mission and motto of Wikipedia and to
effectively utilize the opportunities and resources it allows and
provides for the betterment of the community. Therefore, I DO NOT NEED TO
ENGAGE IN ANY CLANDESTINE OR UNETHICAL ACTIVITIES WHILE BEING AN EC MEMBER OR
Please allow me to write these rather silly lines more on a list which I always
consider serious and subject-worthy. My apologies for the same in advance.
Is just withdrawing an accusation of that degree enough?
I STRONGLY DEMAND AN OUTRIGHT APOLOGY FROM YOU, THROUGH THIS VERY MAILING LIST,
as this could heavily damage my reputation and stature henceforth both at a
personal capacity as well as a responsible member of the
current WMIN EC.
>> Dear Vishwaprabha,
I think till this point the points you raised are valid. I had already in an
email previous to this withdrawn my statement. You have asked that I apologise
since you did not deem this retraction sufficient. I think that this is fair. I
even grant you the freedom to shout, in asking for your apology.
However, I deem the statements from hereon as a hit below the belt of an
opponent who has already raised the white flag. This does not become you as an
Executive Member of the Wikimedia India Chapter.
I wish I had tried out the methods you suggest below or at least had the
guidance of someone who had access to these methods. My email, which I see as
rather stupid in hindsight, was rather written without giving any thought
I know that this email has shown me in poor light on this mailing list. I
cannot take back my words which I have written. I offered you an unconditional
apology, which is all that I could do under the circumstances.
I only wish to place on record that I am disappointed in this following section
of the email that you have sent me. In this section you conclude that I am a
fool, stupid, ignorant and cannot think on my own two feet. Although you do not
state this openly it is, in my opinion, implied. For this, I do not ask you for
an apology, I only ask that you leave me alone and that we part ways amicably.
warm regards and good luck in all your endeavours on Wikimedia and off it.
**end of Pradeep's emails**
I must also remind you that either your
criminology and cyber-investigation lessons were quite bad, or your
'teachers' were quite unprepared. Or perhaps, you did not carry out your
overnight homework exercises carefully.
It is quite funny how you could have arrived such laughable conclusions
considering the following reasons:
1. Do I really call 'Moksh' as 'Moksha'? I don't think so. Did SOMEONE ELSE
tell you so? Then, could it be that you were taken for a ride by those someone
2. Now, if someone else did not tell this (non-fact), how did you come to
know of such a peculiar 'disorder' that I seem to have? Did we even talk to
each other after a face-to-face (and very friendly) meet on 3rd of
May 2012 (at Kerala Sahitya Academy compound, Thrissur)? Have we even
ever spoke through phone or any other voice channels (or even mails)?
Except for 3rd May 2012, Do I even know you personally? And then, did I even
knew a person called 'Moksh' (or 'Moksha'), worthy of a subject of interest
until the recent elections (or at the least, until I actually got involved with
the chapter business last October)?
3. The next possibility is that I could have possibly written his name as
'Moksha' somewhere in a mail list or wiki page. Can you EVER SHOW ANY PAGE OR
EVEN PRIVATE MAIL where I have used the term 'Moksha'?
So, having done a serious wrong, I demand you to immediately offer your
apologies (to me as well as the list for having misled them,) right through
this mailing list!
With the above statements and demand,
Wikimedia India Chapter.
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