Hoi, I am so in disagreement with you .. If something new has to start and Wikidata is new, then it needs more than just a video or a conference call. I know, I live and breath it, I still discover new opportunities every day. I gave a presentation to professionals who work in data. It took me an hour to set up the environment with them and for them so that they could start..
We had a meeting for three hours and we scratched the surface enough to make a difference. The fact that we were together ensured good faith and enough understanding. Then again, the approach in the questioning of "Q14"  is such that I find that people assume that they know what the proposal is and, what it aims to achieve. I have seen some of the agenda and if only a fifth of what is started pays of it is well worth the investment. I can also categorically state that the agenda is being worked on for half a year now and preparations have been under way for as long. Just consider what a challenge it is to bring Wikidata to India in a way where it actually makes a difference. It can and it will if only because there is so much to that program. My initial reaction is one of "assume good faith".. What I know is that you do not know what is aimed for and I am sure you did not ask. You did not consider how a program can make a difference.. It can when it is has many facets, angles and a chance of making a difference here and there. The question is not can it be a success, but it seems more one of do you want it to be a success. Thanks, GerardM  https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants_talk:APG/Proposals/2013-2014_round2/The_Centre_for_Internet_and_Society/Proposal_form#Q14 On 23 April 2014 17:27, Ravishankar <ravidre...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hoi Gerard, > > This is not a discussion about the usefulness of CIS's work. Most of the > Indic Wiki communities till date have only engaged with CIS in good faith. > > Your comment about WikiData can help at > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants_talk:APG/Proposals/2013-2014_round2/The_Centre_for_Internet_and_Society/Proposal_form#Q14 > > Ravi > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimediaindia-l mailing list > Wikimediaindiaemail@example.com > To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l > >
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