Dear all,
>From some of the discussions, it is becoming increasingly obvious that the
sanctity of the respective forums has to be maintained under all
circumstances.  Using a public mailing lists to sort out details that
should be discussed within the Board or within the EC is deplorable. Look
at all the successful movements around the world and you will find that the
simple reason for their success is discipline of thought, word and action.

Leading a movement such as the free knowledge movement called Wikipedia
constrained by the challenges of a pluralistic culture requires a ton of
maturity.  There are also challenges of working with a team or teams that
comes with diverse experiences and view points and I can assure you that
getting frustrated and quitting or using a public forum to wash dirty linen
is not the way forward.  Discipline, patience and perseverance are the
keys.  The free knowledge movement provides us with an opportunity to not
only refine society but also ourselves as human beings.  Please use this
opportunity wisely.
With fraternal greetings from the Free Software Movement in India
Vikram Vincent

On 13 September 2014 12:01, Srikanth Ramakrishnan <>

> Thank you Viswa, for clarifying.
> As per what you asked me to refer to to, the bylaws, page states that
> membership has to be renewed within the first three months of the fiscal
> year, which is (if you were unaware) April, May, June. As per Sowmyan's
> mail to the EC in July, Nikita had not sent in either the form or the
> money. In the case of Karthik and me, the money was sent, on his request
> for both of us prior to the deadline from my bank account via NEFT. All you
> need to do is check the bank records.
> As for the CoI policy, I had started the draft using the WMF policy as a
> base. None of you contributed to it. There was a resolution passed to
> accept this draft as well as a resolution to post minutes of meetings on
> the public wiki. Due to technical glitches, this never happened, and you
> were given the task of coordinating to get it running properly.
> Regards,
>  On 13-Sep-2014 9:25 am, "Srikanth Ramakrishnan" <>
> wrote:
>> Viswa,
>> Before accusing me of holding back your mails please do remember that I
>> was never an admin of this list. It has always been Hari and Anirudh.
>>  On 13-Sep-2014 2:10 am, "ViswaPrabha (വിശ്വപ്രഭ)" <>
>> wrote:
>>> Dear Srikanth,
>>> Please read the bye-laws once again and always quote from the bye-law in
>>> exact verbatim.
>>> For your convenience, here is a copy of the MoA:
>>> I shall even direct you to the exact location for this particular clause:
>>> It is at Article V, Section 2 (on page 8th of the whole 18 page PDF
>>> volume).
>>> Also, please be careful so that such uneducated and precisely planned
>>> doubts does not hit back at cases of your own (as well as Karthik's)
>>> membership validity and cessation,   if not for any previous instances.
>>> Thanks and regards,
>>> Viswam
>>> PS. BTW, why is it that my mails are not being transmitted through this
>>> list? How do I know how long this may have been happening? Being one of the
>>> administrators, you may have a clue. ;)
>>> On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 12:29 AM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan <
>>>> wrote:
>>>> Viswa, I have read the bylaws. If a member does not renew before the
>>>> grace period, in this case 30th of June, it becomes a new application. 10th
>>>> July is not exactly within the grace period is it?
>>>> On 12-Sep-2014 11:42 pm, "ViswaPrabha (വിശ്വപ്രഭ)" <
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> I am resending  ( rather, re-attempting to send) an important reply
>>>>> mail that  was sent to this mail list 10 hours back from my
>>>>> ID, for your kind reading. *To my great shock, I realize now that,
>>>>> strangely that mail never reached our mail-list!*
>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>> From: Viswanathan Prabhakaran <>
>>>>> Date: Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 12:42 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WMIN shutdown ?
>>>>> To: Wikimedia India Community list <
>>>>> Dear Srikanth and other readers,
>>>>> On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan <
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Viswa,
>>>>>> Prior to the departure of several EC members,  resolution had been
>>>>>> passed to accept the draft Coi policy that was done by me with Karthik's
>>>>>> help. Please ensure that it is implemented.
>>>>> A new draft is being prepared, (stemmed from your draft, thank you,
>>>>> Srikanth), incorporating additional details conforming to international
>>>>> standards for non-profit  organizations. Within a day or two, this draft
>>>>> will be presented in the chapter Wiki for review, discussion  and
>>>>> suggestions by any members (and even interested community members and 
>>>>> other
>>>>> stakeholders).
>>>>> The draft will be retrieved back to the EC and will be finally vetted
>>>>> and approved as a standard core document during the upcoming Board Meeting
>>>>> on 20,21 September 2014 at Bangalore.
>>>>> Also, you mentioned a board meeting in September. Does this indicate
>>>>>> the AGM or just the four core EC members.
>>>>> The board meeting on 20,21 at Bangalore is a board meeting. It will
>>>>> take up and decide on the matter of AGM / Elections in such a way as to
>>>>> conduct the same at the earliest possible date,  as early as the 
>>>>> stipulated
>>>>> timelines and documentation requirements (mainly completion of Audit 
>>>>> Report
>>>>> and Annual Report) will allow. It will also review and decide on the 
>>>>> voting
>>>>> eligibility requirements of all chapter members who are members of the
>>>>> chapter. Further, it will decide on several administrative policies, of
>>>>> which, a major one will be the feasibility of enlistment of all members
>>>>> (with bare minimum personal data) on the chapter wiki. Some of these
>>>>> decisions will be acted upon immediately after the meeting.
>>>>> The EC is also seriously corroborating on the feasibility of
>>>>> publishing every minutes and resolutions passed during its business except
>>>>> for the ones require confidential privacy.
>>>>> In the meanwhile, we also intend to invite suggestions for
>>>>> modifications and improvements in the bye-laws and other documents via
>>>>> discussions on the member wiki. Such suggestions, will be finely filtered
>>>>> and drafted, presented and voted upon during the AGM  and will be passed 
>>>>> if
>>>>> approved by a two third majority.
>>>>> I say four because Nikita had not renewed her membership as of the
>>>>>> first of July 2014 thus ceasing to be a member of the chapter let alone 
>>>>>> an
>>>>>> EC member.
>>>>>> You may kindly refer to the Bye-law regarding the norms on cessation
>>>>> and reinstatement of membership.
>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>> Viswanathan Prabhakaran
>>>>> Treasurer
>>>>> Wikimedia Chapter
>>>>>> Please look into these matters.
>>>>>> On 11-Sep-2014 2:16 am, "ViswaPrabha (വിശ്വപ്രഭ)" <
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>> The newly restructured EC has held a telecon tonight (September
>>>>>>> 10th). We have decided to meet in person at Bangalore on 20,21 & 22
>>>>>>> September 2014 with a large number of tasks in hand.
>>>>>>> Due to several reasons, principally among them, a delay in the
>>>>>>> completion of Financial Audit Reports, we are forced to postpone the AGM
>>>>>>> and Elections by a few weeks, following the recommendation of our legal 
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> financial consultants.
>>>>>>> The above board meeting, to be held in Bangalore, will corroborate
>>>>>>> and decide on the earliest possible date to conduct the AGM and General
>>>>>>> Elections considering all formal timeline constraints. We will also 
>>>>>>> meet-up
>>>>>>> with the Election Committee, our legal and financial consultants and 
>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>> concerned agencies.
>>>>>>> We are also about to present a few drafts at the Chapters wiki and
>>>>>>> invite amendments, modifications and improvements in our constitutional 
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> policy documents. This will include a 'Conflict of Interest' policy, a
>>>>>>> basic framework on the formation of an Advisory committee, 
>>>>>>> simplification
>>>>>>> of membership application processes, grant process, publication of
>>>>>>> necessary Membership data without compromising the privacy concerns etc.
>>>>>>> We will be releasing more detailed info along these lines within a
>>>>>>> few days. Till then, Please standby.
>>>>>>> Thank you
>>>>>>> Viswanathan Prabhakaran
>>>>>>> Treasurer
>>>>>>> Wikimedia India Chapter
>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 1:44 AM, Sudhanwa Jogalekar <
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Anivar Aravind
>>>>>>>> <> wrote:
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 10:31 AM, Samuel Klein <>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >> I am also surprised to see no reply.  Arjuna, do you have any
>>>>>>>> further
>>>>>>>> >> information?
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Update on Election commitee process on WMIN Elections is here
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> Any further updates?
>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>> -Sudhanwa
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