Hi Pavanaja, If the books that are released under CC license contain works of Dr. B.R. Ambedkar, it is a blunder and we should not support that or publicise it. Editor of a book doesn't supersede. Copyrights of the original author, in fact edited versions come under copyright of both, the author and editor (of the compilation). In this case, though govt. decided to release their book(s) under CC, Dr. Ambedkar's work still remains under copyright it not being 60 years since his death.
I would suggest to take good legal advise on this matter before it is too late. BR, Dhaval On 25 Sep 2014 10:13, "Dr Pavanaja" <pavan...@vishvakannada.com> wrote: > The books have this statement "ಈ ಆವೃತ್ತಿಯ ಹಕ್ಕು : ಕರ್ನಾಟಕ ಸರಕಾರ", which > means Govt of Karnataka holds the copyright for this particular edition. > GoK issued a statement releasing these books now under CC. I do agree that > there can't be any copyright on texts of dasa sahitya, vachana sahitya and > other classics which are quite old. The books now released by GoK also > include some recent books which contains collections like complete works of > Dr Ambedkar, essays on Ambedkar, research works on Kanaka dasa, etc. We > should appreciate that officials at Kannada and Culture Dept of GoK have > realised the importance of open knowledge philosophy and have agreed to > release the books under CC. This will definitely help in convincing other > departments, academies and universities to release their works under CC. > > Regards, > Pavanaja > > > On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 1:51 PM, Anivar Aravind <anivar.arav...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> >> >> On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 1:02 PM, Vishnu <visdav...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Thursday 25 September 2014 11:19 AM, Rajesh Ranjan wrote: >>> >>> On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Anivar Aravind < >>> anivar.arav...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 9:55 PM, Vishnu <visdav...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dear Ravi, >>>>> >>>>> On the copyright question AFAIK... it is the manner in which a >>>>> certain content is expressed (e.g. analyzed, compiled, paginated, >>>>> represented, etc..) the author could claim copyright, as there is a >>>>> certain >>>>> basic amount of creative labour that went into it. So Govt. of Karnataka >>>>> could rightfully copyright these works, which it has now released under >>>>> CC-BY-SA 3.0. A useful thing to read in this context would be this [1]. >>>>> >>>> >>>> As Ravi pointed 11th Century Kannada literature is already public >>>> domain . There is no point in re-licensing it as CC-BY-SA . >>>> Digitization does not create fresh copyright . While thanking Govt >>>> for their efforts to make it available , please dont create fresh copyright >>>> on it . And while looking at details, There was no point of time in which >>>> govt of Karanataka had copyright on this content . >>>> >>>> This effort is almost in same lines of Open access initiative of >>>> rare public domain books by Kerala Sahitya academy happened almost same >>>> time last year ( >>>> http://www.keralasahityaakademi.org/online_library/index.html) . They >>>> havnt claimed any undeserving copyright on these books . SO it is better if >>>> people involved canm correct Govt of Karanataka at this point itself >>>> showing kerala example to avoid further ambiguities surrounding license . >>>> >>>> ~ regards >>>> Anivar >>>> >>>> >>> >>> I agree with Ravi and Anivar! >>> >>> I am not an expert of licensing, but the thing that is already in >>> public domain, licensing the same under CC-BY-SA 3.0 is one way >>> limiting the public availability of the same content. >>> >>> Rajesh and Anivar, >>> >>> Purely from a copyright POV, it is important to recognize the idea - >>> expression divide. The content per-se in this case may be public domain, >>> but it is the expression of it that is copyrighted as I stated above. >>> Especially, as I understand, the copyright act in India has bare minimum >>> requirements for creative labour. >>> >>> But I am willing to be better educated on this. >>> >>> >> In US copyright The Bridgeman v. Corel [1]case established, and several >> other courts have followed, the principle that a "slavish copy" does not >> have enough originality to warrant copyright protection. Skill in making >> that copy, no matter how great it is (and we all know how difficult it can >> be to make a good copy), also is not by itself "original" enough to warrant >> copyright protection. we only need to care about the US law in this case >> because content hosted is in wikimedia servers in US . AFAIK this does not >> have much conflicts with indian law too. >> >> Licensing this under creative commons is a copyright claim of public >> domain works even though spirit behind licensing is different. So my only >> point is whoever working on this please correct it at this point itself by >> giving proper credit (as Open access initiative of kannada old classics ) >> by pointing examples like kerala sahitya academy's last year efforts. >> >> In india we anyway need to get more public institutions and libraries to >> release digitalized /scanned version of PD works . So the each example we >> set at this point have impacts over all these decisions. So please correct >> the mistakes at this point . >> >> If public institions who release PD books in digitalized form needs >> credit for their efforts do it via press coverage or via GLAM >> >> [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bridgeman_Art_Library_v._Corel_Corp. >> >> >> ~ regards >> Anivar >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list >> Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimediaindia-l mailing list > Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l > >
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