Hi all, I request all of you to take the discussion to the Grant talk page on Meta where it would be more visible and useful for others going thru the proposal.
-- Srikanth. http://bestpedia.in On 22-Aug-2015 8:10 pm, "sankarshan" <foss.mailingli...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 6:00 PM, Ashwin Baindur > <ashwin.bain...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Request the views of more editors on this proposal. Guys, Santanu took > > the trouble to give us a detailed proposal, at least lets do him the > > courtesy of giving our views, whatever these may be. > > I went through the proposal in small chunks primarily to think through > this. I am not an editor and so the views may or, may not be relevant. > In no particular order, here are a few comments. > > [+] The proposal states "The main purpose of Wikipedia Treks Kalindi > Khal is to increase the material related to Himalayan Range with a > free license in Wikimedia Commons and improve the quality and increase > the amount of articles about diversifying Garhwal Himalayan mountain > range and other respective variety in different languages in > Wikipedia. Also to raise awareness among various community chapters, > motivate them to contribute to the Wikimedia projects and organize > this kind of trekking expedition in future." > > This is in fact 3 specific objectives - (a) collect material on the > region covered by this trek; (b) generate awareness within the > chapters; (c) establish the feasibility of a similar activity by > accruing more value than consumed > > [+] The proposal states "Currently this project is focused on Global > south region which will Improve editor diversity by recruiting new > editors from this particular target group." > > But doesn't specifically mention the target group or, the methodology > of recruiting new editors > > [+] "Trekking or hiking is extremely well liked adventure sports > through the globe and it will be enormously easier to find like-minded > open source and free knowledge organizations and initiatives with whom > we can collaborator with" > > A few examples of such organizations would have been a good thing to > have at this point. Primarily to estimate the willingness of the said > organizations to contribute to knowledge under a free (or, liberal) > license. Anecdotal experience indicates that organizations have their > own rationale and quirks when engaging in collaborative ventures and > prior handshakes are required to ensure specific outcomes > > [+] "This Wikipedia Treks Kalindi Khal will be the first major public > activity of its kind and will be pivotal in the increased uptake of > Wikimedia projects by the populace of the extreme lands in India." > > The simplest question for this line of reasoning is "How?". "Extreme > lands" would indicate a set of constraints that are unique and perhaps > primary among those being the awareness of the utility value of > Wikipedia itself. The proposal does not go on to elaborate how it is > planned to be addressed > > [+] "This team of WTM comprises total nine members; among them three > wikipedians and a female wikipedian volunteer is involved. We expect > another three non wikipedian experienced trek member to be converted > into volunteers. > After the completion of trek, there will be three edit-a-thons, for > new editors, where they will be educated with proper guidance, > follow-up and mentorship." > > It would be nice to have a draft idea of what can be documented. This > can be in the form of stub pages which can be filled out later during > the edit-a-thons or, an assessment of the gaps in the existing content > around the region to be covered by the trek thus creating a handy > guide to what needs to be added. This pre-expedition exercise could > also serve as a metric of success of such ventures > > [+] "Wikimedia Commons has an insignificant representation of > mountains and peaks along with the species, flora and fauna in the > complete Himalayan range. The available images are of moderate to > acceptable quality. Wikipedia Treks Kalindi Khal aims to improve the > coverage of the Himalayan range by encouraging people (including > professional photographers) to take and donate quality images under > free licenses to the Wikimedia Commons database." > > The proposal does not mention whether the current team does comprise > of individuals who are proficient in skills of photography and would > contribute (not 'donate') images of higher resolution and greater > variety to Commons > > [+] "Increasing Wikimedia's participation in the remotest places (Mana > Village, the last village of India) is one of the salient points of > Wikipedia Treks Kalindi Khal. Garhwal Himalaya is crucial to this > objective, as a key hub for the whole range of Himalaya. Since the > Internet penetrations in these areas are low, the end results will be > less satisfactory. Henceforth, the initial impact will increase > awareness." > > And again, "How?" The proposal misses an unique opportunity to provide > creative solutions while attempting to increase awareness of Wikipedia > (and related projects) in areas that are mostly off-the-internet. > Also, if the awareness campaign is successful, what are the planned > next steps which can be looked into? > > [+] "Encourage Innovation" > > This specific topic could do with a revisit. The current shape of the > content does not indicate any innovating practices or, approaches. > > /s > > -- > sankarshan mukhopadhyay > <https://twitter.com/#!/sankarshan> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimediaindia-l mailing list > Wikimediaindiafirstname.lastname@example.org > To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >
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