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On 27 Mar 2012 11:44, "Abbas Mahmood" <abbas...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>  Sorry for being blunt :-|
>
> I have heard lots of complaints about this mailing list from both local
> chapter members, Wikipedia editors, and the wider Wikimedia community.
> Phoebe once mentioned something about mailing lists that I believe is worth
> sharing:
>
> One point that I have thought about, and talked about privately with
> some of you, is (particularly on a list like this) how much time --
> how many person-hours -- is spent on each email. An email list where
> the entire staff and chapters officers are subscribed means that each
> email is read by a few hundred people, many of whom are getting paid
> and/or who have serious institutional responsibilities. So even if a
> long mail only takes 5 minutes to read, parse and think about, how
> many person-hours (and in turn donor dollars, lost productivity, or
> time taken from other things) are being spent? Let's be optimistic and
> assume that any given email is only read by *half* the list. 5 minutes
> x 100 people = 500 minutes / 60 = 8.3 hours.
>
> So one full workday -- 8 hours of our collective time -- for each long
> email. That is a heavy burden to ask of ourselves, and a heavy
> responsibility on those of us (like me!!!) who go on at length in
> their mails!
>
>
> Being the admin of this list, I have seen soooo many people unsubscribe to
> this list, mostly because they have found it nonconstructive and lots of
> lip-service going on. So people can be free to post whatever they want on
> this mailing list, but that doesn't mean that we are free from
> the repercussions of what we say. The consequence of this being a list that
> is ignored, or people unsubscribe, or even get added to a kill file.
>
> So we can therefore continue on as we are, and reap whatever the results
> of that are or individuals can choose to self-moderate.
>
> The choice is yours!
>
> Abbas.
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 11:02:15 +0300
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] thank you
> From: njeria...@gmail.com
> To: abbas...@hotmail.com
>
> that wasn't sooo kind....
>
> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Abbas Mahmood <abbas...@hotmail.com>wrote:
>
>  Oh my goodness, Lisper! May I ask you to please pause and breathe in (and
> out) before sending unnecessary emails to this list? I am quite overwhelmed
> by my almost unmanageable inbox, and would highly appreciate it if we'd
> stop flooding people's inboxes.
>
> --Abbas.
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 00:44:47 -0700
> From: lispermwe...@yahoo.com
> To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: [Wikimedia Kenya] thank you
>
> thank you for the security
> that was very good of you
> that's why i choose to work with you
> am assured of security.
>
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