On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 4:16 PM, Ting Chen <wing.phil...@gmx.de> wrote: > Amir Elisha Aharoni wrote: >> On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 21:09, Yoni Weiden <yonideb...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> The question is - shouldn't there be one set of standards for all >>> Wikipedias?
Perhaps for issues so important that they demand standardization. We roughly try to do this for truly core policies, legal updates, &c. Are TV-program-episode notability guidelines are one of those highly important standards? I'm not so sure. >> I do think that there should be one set of standards for all >> languages. But it may be hard to enforce it on an existing community. > > No, because we are not able to reach a concensus across all the language > communities. Thus each project community should reach their own > concensus. Personally I find this diversity also a very good thing > because one can always get ideas from other projects, good ones to > follow, bad ones to avoid or to change. Yes. I do think that over a longer period of time good policies for which there is some benefit to standardization can become standard for the larger global community. We should probably have a more definite process for this. So far it hasn't been a critical issue (though freeness of images has made as good an argument as any discussion I've seen so far). >> implications, but it is next to impossible to enforce Notability or >> Verifiability policies. Again, this is also true within one project. It is only 1-2 magnitudes harder across projects, not necessarily different in quality. [this process would be easier if the cross-wiki policy pageson meta were clearer and easier to add to, it is true. I copy the underused wikimediameta list for the sake of propriety...] >> Few he-wikipedians care about it, but he.wikipedia did quite well for >> several years without a clear written policy on any of the following: >> Living People, Notability, Original Research and Verifiability. All >> decisions on these matters are made ad hoc. To our friends from >> en.wikipedia it must seem surreal :) >> > No, this is the ideal state. Actually I don't like written rules. Rules > are dead things and often they don't really fit to the actual situation. > If one can discuss every case and reach a concensus without a fix rule > this is for me the best case. But this only works in a relatively small > community and doesn't fit a very big and diverse community. +1 (this is true whether the unwritten rules are 'across many wikis' or just 'for your one wiki'... or just understood among editors in a given subject area.) SJ _______________________________________________ Wikimediameta-l mailing list Wikimediametaemail@example.com https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediameta-l