On 24/09/2010 18:29, geni wrote:
>> 2. Get the lawyers to find something splitting the difference between
>> CC-by-NC and CC-by-SA. The British Museum and other major institutions
>> can live with non-commercial use of their stuff. We cannot. CC is
>> therefore still too crude.
> Such licenses exist (crown copyright would technically qualify). We
> can't use them and then tend to be legally messy. In practice when
> dealing with 3D collections we can generally produce pretty good
> results ourselves. Admittedly this takes time but the quality at:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_History_of_the_World_in_100_Objects
>
> is improving.
>
Scenario: the world's leading museums are getting their act together, 
and putting together a subscription site where we'll have to go to 
explore their collections online. Top academic libraries will have to 
find the money. We want to put a counter-proposal, and have two strong 
cards to play:

* What they are doing will just perpetuate the argument against the 
nineteenth-century western collections, because it's the privileged 
who'll be able to access easily the site that documents them.
* We have the Bates-Guffett Foundation lined up to finance an opening-up 
of at least images of the collections.
* Point three - what is it? By some sort of lateral thinking compared to 
where we are now, we need to produce a concept, perhaps involving an 
independent curating  body, microtransactions, fast remote loading, 
legal innovario ... whatever it is, images to appear in Wikipedia and 
other "free content" places as a type of "fair use", not involving the 
current premise that we need a local copy on our own servers under the 
licensing arrangement we use for everything else. Some practical 
arrangement that can produce sponsored public service usage of images of 
unique objects, without simply asking the museums to drop an income 
stream without compensation (see the thread title).

Charles



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