As someone who does attend real life events and who does edit under a pseudonym, I'm rather grateful for those who've spoken up and are aware of this issue.
I'm an admin on the English Wikipedia, so to some of the trolls at WR I suppose I'm a target for outing. As an admin I have done quite a bit of trawling userspace for attack pages, and of the more than five thousand pages I've deleted quite a large proportion have been attack pages. Not surprisingly I've had quite a bit of abuse up to and including death threats from the people I've thereby annoyed. As a regular at GLAM and other events I'm aware that there is a risk that at some point I will be "outed" deliberately or by accident, and so I've switched my focus to other less contentious areas of editing. But the longer I can putoff the day when someone links my userid and my real life identity the safer I will feel. I'm not suggesting that only those who've had death threats via their Wikipedia account should decide on the risk we as a chapter take about the outing of fellow editors. But I would appreciate it if people bore that sort of concern in mind when they contemplated welcoming to our meetings those who want to out editors. Regards WereSpielChequers On 10 January 2012 17:16, HJ Mitchell <hjmitch...@ymail.com> wrote: > As somebody who has nevwer been an arbitrator, functionary, or board > member, and as somebody whose real-life identity is on his userpage for all > to see, I thought I'd just chime in that I agree completely with Anthony > and Richard. > > I have personally spoken to at least two respected members of the > Wikipedia community who are members of WMUK who have told me that they feel > uncomfortable attending events at which Edward Buckner/Peter Damian is > present because he has attempted or might attempt to "out" them, such as by > posting photographs of them on the Internet or by publishing the real names > of some of those who edit under pseudonyms (and many editors use pseudonyms > because they have good reason not to want their real life job or identity > etc associated with their Wikipedia username). > > It is lamentable that a precedent has been set for banning a person from > WMUK events, but in this case, I endorse the decision unreservedly, because > people should be able to attend such events without worrying about the > informationt hat migh be maliciously published about them. > > Harry Mitchell > (User:HJ Mitchell) > > *From:* Thomas Dalton <thomas.dal...@gmail.com> > *To:* pet...@cix.compulink.co.uk; firstname.lastname@example.org > *Sent:* Tuesday, 10 January 2012, 2:03 > *Subject:* Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [Functionaries-en] Edward Buckner/Peter > Damian & W > > What makes you think everyone that attends a WMUK event is in a > high-profile role and is in a position of authority? > > The trustees of WMUK are all perfectly open about their real life > identities, as it is required by law. You can go onto the Companies > House website and find out about them whether they like it or now (or > you can just go onto the WMUK website and find out even more, of > course). The same goes for the trustees and senior staff of the WMF. > > This ban isn't to protect the board, it's to protect other people > attending events. > > On 10 January 2012 01:50, Peter Cohen <pet...@cix.compulink.co.uk> wrote: > > In-Reply-To: <2224b9fe-c1a6-4ef0-98b3-c0cd5ae53...@gmail.com> > > Anthony, > > > > I am just an ordinary Wikipedian. Although I have contemplated becoming > an > > admin in the past, I have never applied to be one and don't intend to do > > so in the foreseeable future. As such, I have no obligation to > acknowledge > > anything about anyone. > > > > It so happens that the Wikipedian I have probably had most contact with > as > > a Wikipedian is an anonymous editor and I understand enough of his > > circumstances to know why it is appropriate in his case. I am not going > to > > out him or other ordinary editors or admins who focus on using the brush > > end of the broom. However, the higher someone gets up the hierarchy the > > less appropriate it is for someone to be granted anonymity. > > > > When someone is active in AE or has an extensive history of using blocks > > against established editors, then the right to privacy becomes > > questionable. Wikipedia isn't just a private club. It is one of the most > > powerful websites in the world. > > > > Arbitrators, senior Foundation staff and directors of WMUK and the like > > are in positions of authority over that website and it is entirely > > appropriate that they should be scrutinised publcly. > > > > I don't know as much about Buckner as you do. Maybe I would be horrified > > by him if I did. But I'm not going to accept that everyone in > high-profile > > roles should be above external scrutiny. And actually it's surprising how > > restrained people are being. As far as I know, no one seems to have gone > > to Private Eye. > > > > Peter > > > > >> Peter, > >> > >> The additional issues with Buckner, who routinely tries to uncover > >> the identity of Wikipedians who are in high-profile roles, mean it > >> is quite appropriate to ban him from these events. > >> > >> Nobody said he was a "security risk", but it is the case that he > >> has caused stress among many editors for no other reason than that > >> he can. A subset of these editors have resigned because of > >> Buckner/Damian. He should not be welcome at WMUK events because of > >> his behaviour, period. It astounds me that you don't acknowledge > >> the ongoing issues with this man's actions. > >> > >> Anthony > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia UK mailing list > > wikimediau...@wikimedia.org > > http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > > WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia UK mailing list > wikimediau...@wikimedia.org > http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia UK mailing list > wikimediau...@wikimedia.org > http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org > >
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