If I'm reading Gordon's post right, I think I share some of his hesitancy. I'm 
very wary of anything that makes what we do more formal, and I think it needs 
to be made as easy as possible to start doing things for WMUK - anything that 
makes it more difficult for people to just turn up is a bad thing.

I don't think anybody is naive enough to believe that we shouldn't have any 
formality or paid staff given the amount of (voluntarily donated) money 
involved, but it's essential that we remember that the overwhelming majority of 
the people involved with WMUK do it for pleasure and/or out of passion for the 
Wikimedia movement - those people *are* Wikimedia UK. The staff roles and 
the bureaucracy exist to support them..

That said, Jon's clarification that it was intended primarily for interns/kids 
on work experience/etc put my mind more at rest.

Harry      


________________________________
 From: Gordon Joly <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]; [email protected] 
Sent: Friday, 17 February 2012, 20:34
Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK staff policies
 
On 17/02/2012 19:05, Gordon Joly wrote:
> On 09/02/2012 17:51, Chris Keating wrote:
>> 
>> Gordon - have you actually read the draft policy - if so is there anything 
>> you particularly object to about it?
>> 
> Yes, I have. Thanks for asking.
> 
> Gordo
> 

Apologies Chris. Let me explain.

I was in full time work in 1999, but since then I started to spend more time as 
a "volunteer" and less time making hard cash. Some say that I might be building 
"social capital". I Chair two active local groups, I have been a Trustee of 
registered charity, I am very active with various parts of my local housing 
association, and also with local NHS bodies.

The housing association has a "volunteer policy", and the application pack was 
34 pages in length (I think that has changed). They have a lot of volunteering 
effort. But there is a real divide between those are "official" volunteers and 
those who contribute to the community in different ways. What bugs me is some 
will get awards, get their picture taken, get invited to special events and 
others will just on with it.

Wikipedia started as a volunteer effort. Wikimedia UK wanted to label some 
people as volunteers, since those volunteers will take take part (online and 
offline we assume) at workshops, competitions, hack days, GLAM events etc etc 
run by the organization.

I guess I need to used to the idea ...... bit like Usenet being transformed 
into Google Groups, perhaps (or Dejanews).... if you get my drift.

Gordo


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