I'll have to reserch Hansard for that one...

Brian McNeil
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> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Lum Hats in Paradise
> From: Jon Davies <[email protected]>
> Date: Tue, May 22, 2012 2:25 pm
> To: [email protected]
> Cc: Ashley van Haeften <[email protected]>
> 
> 
> I remember Tam Dayell (I think it was him) had a little comic speech during
> the Thatcher years asking people to imagine Libraries had not been
> invented.
> 
> He then pretended he was pitching to the Minister for culture.
> 
> It went:
> " I want to build some big new buildings
> Really?
> Yes , and allow anyone to visit them.
> Really? What sort of people?
> Everyone.
> Why?
> Well, I am going to fill them with books.
> Ah - a sort of bookshop!
> No - we will let people take the books without paying for them..."
> 
> It went on and on but you get the idea.
> 
> Well done the people of Edinburgh and I will cc this to Fae in case he has
> not seen this string as he is so keen to get work in Scotland going.
> 
> Jon
> 
> On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 1:38 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> > Jon,
> >
> > The point is be nice, and respectful, to the library staff. I was having
> > to stop laughing when Fiona was telling me that "they know a good
> > Wikipedia article by the number of cited references". Without any input
> > from us they've figured out how to judge article quality - they are
> > people we want to recruit.
> >
> > I've done 'stubs' on Leith Library[1], Stockbridge Library[2], and
> > McDonald Road Library[3].
> >
> > [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leith_Library
> > [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockbridge_library
> > [3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonald_Road_Library
> >
> > The 7th of July is the 125th anniversary of Andrew Carnegie laying the
> > foundation stone for Edinburgh's Central Library. If there's anything we
> > can do to get them main page mentions (DYK?) then we'll have an entire
> > city's ibrary staff onside.
> >
> > Unlike most of the UK, Edinburgh City Council left libraries in the
> > hands of the public. The response to surveys was that £300,000 was put
> > _back_ into the library budget. I think the city deserves recognised for
> > that, and it should be a priority to document their libraries. Once
> > we've done so there is a basis to do outreach to the non-natives (Hindi,
> > Arabic, etc speakers) and get translations. Considering how many kids do
> > homework in libraries we can also 'stomp on' plagiarism and educate a
> > really wide swathe of the public.
> >
> >
> > Brian McNeil
> > --
> > Wikinews, Accredited Reporter. Personal: [email protected]
> > "Facts don't cease to be facts, but news ceases to be news."
> >
> > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Lum Hats in Paradise
> > > From: Jon Davies <[email protected]>
> > > Date: Tue, May 22, 2012 1:15 pm
> > > To: [email protected]
> > >
> > >
> > > I hope we will be jumping at your offer! Brilliant work,
> > >
> > > On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 1:03 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hola! From a non-Wikipedian Wikimedian - in Edinburgh - who is
> > delighted
> > > > with the response from some tentative outreach work.
> > > >
> > > > I spend around an hour this morning touring Edingburgh's Central
> > Library
> > > > with Fiona Myles, took around 150 photos of the interior of the
> > > > building, and _hope_ I've laid the groundwork for us to work far more
> > > > closely in future.
> > > >
> > > > I have, dependent on copyright, a verbal agreement to get high-res
> > scans
> > > > of the plans of the building (A Carnegie Library), a keen interest to
> > > > have librarians briefed on Wikipedia - if not outright encouraged to
> > > > contribute, and the possibility of running recruitment/induction
> > > > sessions in Edinburgh. Which, for the unwashed masses, is a UNESCO City
> > > > of Literature.
> > > >
> > > > Given the piss-poor representation up here in Scotland, I think that's
> > a
> > > > major win. My next job, as interim 'cowboy liasion' between Wikimedia
> > UK
> > > > and Museums Galleries Scotland is to get a few councillors calling for
> > > > all publicly funded publications to be under a CC-BY license.
> > > >
> > > > Any, and all, encouragement welcome. Any Englandshire Wikimedians wh
> > > > plan to visit Edingburgh in the next 6-12 months, please feel free to
> > > > drop me a mail. If I can get you meetings with people, or privileged
> > > > access for photography, I will.
> > > >
> > > > Fun and frivolity aside, with limited Internet access I've come to the
> > > > conclusion that public libraries are the way to recruit. Brief the
> > staff
> > > > of what makes a good Wikipedia article - half of them know already -
> > > > then a simple static display may encourage locals to try their hand.
> > > > Here in Edinburgh I suspect I can, without too many problems, get
> > > > articles put into about a half-dozen languages with keen help from
> > > > library staff.
> > > >
> > > > And this message's title? Purloined from a book on the city's
> > libraries.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Brian McNeil
> > > > --
> > > > Wikinews, Accredited Reporter. Personal: [email protected]
> > > > "Facts don't cease to be facts, but news ceases to be news."
> > > >
> > > >
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