> there are even bigger images

correction: there are even bigger issues

(I said I was in a rush)

Tom

On 18 June 2012 14:49, Thomas Morton <[email protected]> wrote:

> Looking at the job description I have some concerns that it has been
> written without the input of someone experienced in hiring individuals for
> technical or pseudo-technical roles - especially in the current economic
> climate.
>
> You seem to be looking for someone extremely versatile, experienced
> and independent... on a *very* entry level salary packet.
>
> I was under the impression, from previous discussions, that the developer
> position was to be contractor-style - or at least remote working in the
> region ~10 hours a week.
>
> As a developer, from the description page, I see the following roles:
>
> * Developer
> * Sysadmin
> * Project manager
> * Advocate
>
> Four very distinct roles.
>
> To pick on one specific issue; expecting this person to work on Mediwiki
> core, or an extension, is going to be problematic. That's a whole position
> on its own and you are going to find that ongoing "other work" will make
> project work of that sort untenable.
>
> (speaking as someone who is in much this position at the moment; my
> project work is on hold pretty much all the time whilst clearing up
> management issues).
>
> I worry that there is not a lot of work described in this job; or at least
> the responsibilities are bitty and ill-defined. You're risking having
> someone who will sit for long portions of the day drumming their fingers on
> the desk. (speaking as someone who was hired to do this once, and quit
> after 3 months due to boredom). It would be good to define (internally, on
> the WMUK wiki) the roles this developer will have to fulfill and, from a
> technical perspective, what we'd like to achieve in, say, the next year.
>
> The salary is most concerning though; you're looking for experience and
> versatility - two major technical skills (sysadmin and developer) plus
> management experience/skill - at a basic entry level rate. I think you will
> struggle to find competent applicants.
>
> I'd fit, fairly well, this job description (and I think am pretty good at
> it) - and any London based job under £35K would struggle to tempt me. Under
> £30K is not even worth considering. (n.b. I'm not saying this because I'd
> plan to apply if you raised the salary :)). You;fe
>
> What I recommend is hiring a more general community liaison (we need this
> anyway IMO), with experience in technical projects. They can do most of the
> PM style work. Then contract out specific projects (yes, including MW
> extension writing) as and when needed. Keep a contractor on retainer for
> sysadmin and internal dev work (~10 hours a week etc.).
>
> Particularly as you have numerous skilled dev/sysadmin contractors within
> the community who will likely offer discounted rates. Building on the WMF
> model; with a competent project manager most of the dev/sysadmin work could
> be community driven. I've already offered to pitch in, but there is no
> public project to achieve this that I know of.
>
> If we have a budget of £30K to go into development this is not enough to
> hire a full time developer/sysadmin/manager. It's enough to contract the
> work and to begin to build a volunteer centric development department.
>
> Mike wrote an excellent starter to this here:
> http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/2012_Developer_budget The current job
> description seems to be the opposite of many of those (good) proposals
> (although I know Mike also wrote the job description). If we take the list
> of upcoming requirements from that page there are even bigger images; it
> talks about a robust backup strategy - which is quite a specific set of
> experience. Even worse is the security review stuff - no dev/sysadmin you
> hire for £25K will be capable of a robust security review.
>
> As always; just my 2p :)
>
> Tom
>
> (sorry to be over-critical, but I am in a rush today so this is first
> draft sent :))
>
> On 18 June 2012 13:41, Jon Davies <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> We will shortly be advertising for our developer post. We will be
>> spreading the word far and wide, especially within the community, but all
>> suggestions gratefully received.
>> So far (outside leads:
>> Mozilla
>> Tech hub
>> Civi-CRM
>> Google academy
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Jon
>>
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