If ubiquity is a primary concern for us, why don't we just give them a cash
price? (Practicality: Use PayPal or wire transfer if the winner does not
have a £ bank account)


On 29 November 2013 20:03, Andrew Gray <shimg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> The average time it takes me to redeem an Amazon voucher is under a month.
> I can say from experience I hang on to John Lewis vouchers for a lot longer
> before needing to buy a cushion ;)
>
> I agree with that Amazon vouchers are potentially problematic, but they're
> also a lot more useful than many other options due to sheer ubiquity, and I
> think people appreciate the sense that they can be used for books & don't
> require offline use. It's a trade-off...
>
> A.
> On 27 Nov 2013 14:39, "Fæ" <fae...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 27 November 2013 14:18, Richard Symonds
>> <richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:
>> > To be fair, I will be moving away from Amazon for day-to-day purchases
>> after
>> > watching Panorama last night... it's not really feasible to move away
>> from
>> > Amazon vouchers, but I will definitely look into how we might be able
>> to.
>>
>> I have always been against giving Amazon vouchers. If you have to use
>> vouchers, then employee-owned organizations like John-Lewis are always
>> going to be a more ethical purchase.
>>
>> The TV programme was entertainment, not an analysis. Amazon did not
>> get an opportunity to respond. In particular having been a quality
>> manager for factory floor production, using basic statistical process
>> control for optimizing batch pick time is not in the least bit
>> unreasonable. Bizarrely worker break times were not mentioned (nobody
>> works a 10 hour shift without multiple reasonable breaks), neither was
>> the very fair process for allocating and rewarding night-work shifts.
>> I don't know why anyone would pick stock in areas where the light were
>> out, this was plainly a stupid thing to do, and the floor manager at
>> the time should have asked staff to not do that and defer those jobs
>> until the electrician had fixed those problems.
>>
>> It may be worth asking Amazon for a direct statement about how they
>> respond to the criticism (from a single contract employee and from
>> haphazardly self-selected ex-employees, that the programme was almost
>> entirely based on).
>>
>> Fae
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