In some ways professionals are easier because they will have thought about
IP issues and have a contract which means you negotiate with their manager
rather than them individually. But on the downside they usually expect to
be paid.

I know that some bell ringers do get appearance fees, I used to have a mate
who did it as a side line.

There is also the issue of the composers rights, though of course some bell
ringing will involve tunes that are long out of copyright.



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On 19 March 2014 14:52, Harry Burt <[email protected]> wrote:

> Amateur orchestras, in particular (unless there are professional church
> bell ringers?).
>
> Harry
>  On 19 Mar 2014 14:50, "Stevie Benton" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> I'm clearly no expert on copyright but I wonder if the rights issue would
>> be the same as an orchestra. Would you need to get approval from each
>> musician in an orchestra to use a recording of their performance?
>>
>> Stevie
>>
>>
>> On 19 March 2014 14:43, Andy Mabbett <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I've raised a question on Commons, about performers; ruiights in
>>> reoding of church bells:
>>>
>>>    https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump#Church_bells
>>>
>>> I'm no expert, but AIUI, the UK style of bell ringing is different
>>> from that elsewhere in the world. I hope our ability to upload
>>> recordings of church bells will not be encumbered by the need to get
>>> clearance from each bell ringer.
>>>
>>> Can anyone comment, with any authority, on such matters?
>>>
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