Correction - the page is on meta, not wmuk, so the link would be:

[[meta:Connecting knowledge to power: the future of digital democracy in
the UK]]

-- 
Doug



On 30 May 2014 15:24, rexx <[email protected]> wrote:

> Looking at the introduction from Stevie, it seems that the idea is to see
> if Wikipedia can be used as a vehicle to engage UK citizens (not just UK
> editors) in collaborating to produce a piece of work (i.e. a response to a
> consultation). From that point of view, we would need to aim at notifying
> readers in the UK. The wiki-politics of that would naturally be
> problematical because of the inherent conservatism of our community and its
> resistance to trying anything new. That's not to say it's not worth trying.
>
> As an interim measure, why not try a recurring watchlist geonotice to get
> us started? A few days each month, perhaps, to make sure it doesn't become
> an ongoing "fixture" that everyone ignores. We could say something like:
>
> "Are you interested in collaborating to produce a response to the
> Commission on Digital Democracy? Make your views known at [[wmuk:Connecting
> knowledge to power: the future of digital democracy in the UK]]"
>
> Or something like that, similar to the our usual watchlist notices.
>
> --
> Doug
>
>
>
> On 30 May 2014 13:31, Edward Saperia <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> But this isn't relevant just for wikimedians - it's relevant for everyone
>> affected by UK politics.
>>
>>
>> On 30 May 2014 13:28, Peter Coombe <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I think a CentralNotice would be too broad for this, but it's certainly
>>> a good candidate for a geolocated watchlist notice.
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>>
>>> On 29 May 2014 15:21, Edward Saperia <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Seems pretty damn relevant and important to the people logging on from
>>>> the UK, if you ask me!
>>>>
>>>> *Edward Saperia*
>>>> Creative Director Original Content London
>>>> <http://www.originalcontentlondon.com>
>>>> email <[email protected]> • facebook
>>>> <http://www.facebook.com/edsaperia> • twitter
>>>> <http://www.twitter.com/edsaperia> • 07796955572
>>>> 133-135 Bethnal Green Road, E2 7DG
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 29 May 2014 15:18, Stevie Benton <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Ed. I'm not sure if we could, but it might be worth a try. Does
>>>>> anyone know who the best contact for that would be?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 29 May 2014 15:15, Edward Saperia <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> This is brilliant, I'll share it with all my might. Do you think we
>>>>>> could get it up as a UK geolocated Centralnotice?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Edward Saperia*
>>>>>> Chief Coordinator Wikimania London <http://www.wikimanialondon.org>
>>>>>> email <[email protected]> • facebook
>>>>>> <http://www.facebook.com/edsaperia> • twitter
>>>>>> <http://www.twitter.com/edsaperia> • 07796955572
>>>>>> 133-135 Bethnal Green Road, E2 7DG
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 29 May 2014 15:06, Stevie Benton <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> tl:dr -* Wikimedia UK
>>>>>>> <https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Main_Page> and Demos
>>>>>>> <http://www.demos.co.uk/> are encouraging Wikimedians to participate in 
>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>> attempt to crowdsource a submission to a call for evidence on digital
>>>>>>> democracy from the Speaker of the House of Commons. You can find the
>>>>>>> consultation page here
>>>>>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Connecting_knowledge_to_power:_the_future_of_digital_democracy_in_the_UK>
>>>>>>>  and
>>>>>>> we look forward to hearing from you.*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Speaker of the House of Commons, John Bercow, has established a 
>>>>>>> Commission
>>>>>>> on Digital Democracy
>>>>>>> <http://www.parliament.uk/business/commons/the-speaker/speakers-commission-on-digital-democracy/>.
>>>>>>> It will report to Parliament in early 2015 with recommendations on how
>>>>>>> Parliament can use technology to better represent and engage with the
>>>>>>> electorate, make laws and hold the powerful to account. As part of their
>>>>>>> work, the Commission have issued a series of calls for evidence. These 
>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>> open invitations for members of the public, either as individuals or
>>>>>>> groups, to submit responses to a series of questions. They have 
>>>>>>> attracted
>>>>>>> responses from unions, academics, non-governmental institutions and 
>>>>>>> private
>>>>>>> individuals. The first theme was ‘making laws in a digital age’, and the
>>>>>>> second on ‘digital scrutiny’. The Commission plans to shortly publish 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> final three themes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is a growing sense that the growth of the Internet has not
>>>>>>> paid the democratic dividends that it could. Turnout in formal political
>>>>>>> elections is steadily decreasing, and trust and support in the 
>>>>>>> institutions
>>>>>>> and offices of mainstream political life are low and falling. Despite 
>>>>>>> many
>>>>>>> innovative attempts from both within and outside of Government, the 
>>>>>>> daily
>>>>>>> reality of democratic engagement for most people in the UK would be
>>>>>>> familiar to generations of British citizens who predate Facebook or 
>>>>>>> email.
>>>>>>> The rise of the Internet has, broadly, done little to challenge
>>>>>>> concentrations of power or structures of unequal representation
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Demos <http://www.demos.co.uk/> is one of Britain’s leading
>>>>>>> cross-party think tank and it has an overarching mission to bring 
>>>>>>> politics
>>>>>>> closer to people. They contacted Wikimedia UK to propose an experiment: 
>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>> an online community be used to source a response to this call? Can the
>>>>>>> ethos, community and technology like that of Wikipedia be used to engage
>>>>>>> Wikipedians to come together and collaborate to create a reply? In
>>>>>>> particular, Carl Miller, Research Director of the Demos Centre for the
>>>>>>> Analysis of Social Media, wrote this piece for Wired
>>>>>>> <http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2014-05/22/digital-democracy> in
>>>>>>> which he describes Wikipedia as a masterclass in digital democracy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This conversation has led to what is an experimental attempt to do
>>>>>>> just that. In theory there are many lessons that any attempt to increase
>>>>>>> engagement with digital democracy can learn from Wikimedia projects,
>>>>>>> especially Wikipedia. These include the participatory nature of content
>>>>>>> development and the nature of content (and policy) being arrived at by
>>>>>>> consensus. Wikipedians are from a wide array of backgrounds and 
>>>>>>> represent a
>>>>>>> broad spectrum of views. This could lend itself to effective drafting of
>>>>>>> the kind of evidence that the Speaker is looking for. Wikimedia UK and
>>>>>>> Demos would like to establish whether this is indeed the case. In
>>>>>>> particular, we are seeking answers to the following questions:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    -
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    How can technology help Parliament and other agencies to
>>>>>>>    scrutinise the work of government?
>>>>>>>    -
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    How can technology help citizens scrutinise the Government and
>>>>>>>    the work of Parliament?
>>>>>>>    -
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    What kinds of data should Parliament and Government release to
>>>>>>>    the public to make itself more open to outside scrutiny?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Everyone is encouraged to try to answer these questions
>>>>>>> collaboratively, in much the same way Wikipedia articles are approached 
>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>> using the space below for content and talk page for discussion. Stevie
>>>>>>> Benton from Wikimedia UK
>>>>>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Stevie_Benton_(WMUK)> and
>>>>>>> Carl Miller from Demos will happily answer any questions on the talk 
>>>>>>> page
>>>>>>> but are equally happy to let the process take its course.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At this point there is no fixed deadline for evidence on the theme
>>>>>>> of digital scrutiny. However, the Speaker’s Commission will be 
>>>>>>> publishing
>>>>>>> publishing a single call for evidence covering our last three themes 
>>>>>>> (yet
>>>>>>> to be announced). The conversation and crowdsourced evidence will be
>>>>>>> reviewed at the end of June with a view to either continuing the 
>>>>>>> process or
>>>>>>> submitting as is. If there is appetite among the community, and if the
>>>>>>> first attempt is successful, there may be further attempts to develop
>>>>>>> submissions to the later three themes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At the end of the process Demos and Wikimedia UK will prepare a
>>>>>>> report on the process and the effectiveness of this kind of approach to
>>>>>>> crowdsourcing policy and evidence. This paper will be released under an
>>>>>>> open licence. It is a real opportunity for Wikimedians to influence the
>>>>>>> debate about digital democracy and both Wikimedia UK and Demos thank you
>>>>>>> for engaging with this idea.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You can find the consultation page here
>>>>>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Connecting_knowledge_to_power:_the_future_of_digital_democracy_in_the_UK>
>>>>>>>  and
>>>>>>> we look forward to hearing from you.
>>>>>>> Thanks and regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Stevie
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Stevie Benton
>>>>>>> Head of External Relations
>>>>>>> Wikimedia UK+44 (0) 20 7065 0993 / +44 (0) 7803 505 173
>>>>>>> @StevieBenton
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. 
>>>>>>> Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, 
>>>>>>> London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a 
>>>>>>> global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the 
>>>>>>> Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal 
>>>>>>> control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Stevie Benton
>>>>> Head of External Relations
>>>>> Wikimedia UK+44 (0) 20 7065 0993 / +44 (0) 7803 505 173
>>>>> @StevieBenton
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and 
>>>>> Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered 
>>>>> Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 
>>>>> 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia 
>>>>> movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who 
>>>>> operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control 
>>>>> over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.*
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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