Whilst I agree and gave exactly that advice yesterday to someone who then wrote 
a review of an article on a talkpage explaining where her publication 
contradicted it, another editor promptly responded with the suggestion that of 
course she didn't have a COI and she should amend the article citing her own 
work.

We need to be frank about the differing interpretations of COI in the community.

Regards

Jonathan Cardy


> On 16 Apr 2015, at 02:17, Joe Filceolaire <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> The first rule of COI editing is DON'T
> 
> If an article really needs to be changed then post a comment on the talk page 
> then ask for help on the COI noticeboard
> 
> IMO no new editor should try anything more complicated than that
> 
> Joe
> 
>> On 16 Apr 2015 00:33, "Richard Symonds" <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> I'll get someone to drop you an email or call with advice tomorrow Rod, 
>> notwithstanding Andy's (welcome) advice!
>> 
>>> On 15 Apr 2015 20:48, "Rod Ward" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> I have agreed to do a workshop on behalf of Wikimedia UK on 15th July and 
>>> would appreciate some advice about the best ways to deal with topics around 
>>> Conflict of Interest, Biographies of Living Persons and possibly Paid 
>>> editing.
>>> 
>>> This will be at the University of Exeter and the expected participants are 
>>> web people and possibly other comms people from universities in the south 
>>> west of England. Their objective is to improve the wp articles on academics 
>>> from their institutions (eg 
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Academics_of_the_University_of_Exeter
>>>  )
>>> 
>>> 
>>> This was originally discussed with Daria in 2013 and then was going to be 
>>> held in 2014 (Chris McKenna, HJ Mitchell, Martin Poulter etc were copied 
>>> into the planning). I emailed various experts in March and added it to an 
>>> email to Richard – but have not had any response from any of them
>>> 
>>> I have looked at:
>>> 
>>> ·       https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest
>>> 
>>> ·       
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons
>>> 
>>> ·       https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view
>>> 
>>> 
>>> and feel reasonably comfortable with the content, but would appreciate any 
>>> advice on the best way to get these across to this target group, as beyond 
>>> basic editing I think these will be the most useful areas for the 
>>> participants to engage with.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Rod
>>> 
>>> 
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