We welcome constructive criticism, and I am happy to listen to any members' concerns and ideas for improving Chapter-Community cohesion and communication. :)
John Lubbock Communications Coordinator Wikimedia UK +44 (0) 203 372 0767 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Office 1, Ground Floor, Europoint, 5 - 11 Lavington Street, London SE1 0NZ. Wikimedia UK is the national chapter of the global Wikimedia open knowledge movement. We rely on donations from individuals to support our work to make knowledge open for all. Have you considered supporting Wikimedia UK? Donate here <https://donate.wikimedia.org.uk>. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* On 10 April 2018 at 18:49, John Byrne <[email protected]> wrote: > As very often in recent years, I got a notification of my post sent an > hour or so ago, with completely blank text. Yet Katie has clearly seen it, > as she quotes me. Have others also got blanks? Can the rather cryptic > instructions for replies be clarified, or is there some bug? I get the > digest version. It doesn't exactly encourage people to contribute, and may > be a factor in the much lower activity on this list in recent years. It > never used to happen. > > No Katie, I don't think this has much to do with it, though you are right > to imply that the chapter is over-sensitive to criticism... > > John/Johnbod > > > On 10 April 2018 at 18:37 [email protected] wrote: > > > Send Wikimediauk-l mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Wikimediauk-l digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > 1. Re: UK chapter membership numbers (Charles Matthews) 2. UK chapter > membership numbers (John Byrne) 3. Re: UK chapter membership numbers (Katie > Chan) 4. Re: UK chapter membership numbers (Richard Nevell) > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 14:25:51 +0100 (BST) > From: Charles Matthews > To: UK Wikimedia mailing list > Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] UK chapter membership numbers > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > On 10 April 2018 at 11:41 Fæ wrote: > > It appears that the jump in numbers was a one-off event, there has > been no continued growth since whatever happened. > > > I don't know what happened. I did correspond with the office about a > prompt to renew. One could simulate such a "one-off event" by simply asking > people whose membership had lapsed to renew. I was doing this sort of thing > for WMUK some seven years ago, so as an explanation it is not far-fetched. > > Charles > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 17:31:33 +0100 (BST) > From: John Byrne > To: [email protected] > Subject: [Wikimediauk-l] UK chapter membership numbers > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 18:31:14 +0100 > From: Katie Chan > To: UK Wikimedia mailing list > Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] UK chapter membership numbers > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > Oh I don't know, maybe this "yawning gap" wouldn't be so wide if the > chapter don't get criticised for both not increasing its membership numbers > and having increased its membership numbers. > Just a wide guess.... > KTC > > Sent from my Samsung device > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 17:37:12 +0000 > From: Richard Nevell > To: UK Wikimedia mailing list > Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] UK chapter membership numbers > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Dear Fae, > > My memory could be failing me, but I thought it was explained at the AGM > that the increase was a result of asking donors to become members. > > It sounds like you are more interested in the 'how' of the process and the > 'who' as you seem dissatisfied with the answer to *why* there was an > increase. To make sure we're on the same page is that what you meant? > > Regards, > Richard Nevell > > PS. Have you had a chance to look into the issue on Commons with the > conflicting licence for some images from the Portable Antiquities Scheme? > My question was archived before a reply. > > > On 10 April 2018 at 11:41, Fæ wrote: > > Yes, at the AGM the tripling of membership numbers was explained as > being due to an increase in members joining. No meaningful facts were > presented to the members, but the impression given by the Chair and > the CEO was that there would be more information publicly available. > > My question was "why". Sharing information about any discussion the > trustees have had on improving protection against entryism, would be > healthy for transparency, as would sharing exactly what happened that > caused this massive, overnight, leap in membership totals. Currently, > there is zero information on the nature of who joined, which may have > been down to how they joined. As an example, if 351 people joined at > an academic conference in London, then the people joining would be > academics who go to events in London and if the 351 new members were > found due to appeals by the CEO on Facebook, then the new members > would be limited to people who follow or network with the CEO on > Facebook. > > It appears that the jump in numbers was a one-off event, there has > been no continued growth since whatever happened. Should the chapter > start maintaining the published membership report again, then it will > be possible for people apart from chapter employees to have access to > the latest facts. > > Thanks, > Fae > > On 9 April 2018 at 22:01, Richard Nevell > wrote: > > Dear Fae, > > As was explained at the AGM the increase in the number of members was the > result of a successful membership drive. > > Regards, > Richard Nevell > > > On 9 Apr 2018 21:34, "Fæ" wrote: > > During the last UK Chapter AGM, it was asked why the membership > numbers had radically changed, there was no specific answer to the > question. Was any analysis done on this afterwards? When reviewing > membership it seems likely that the charity's trustees would have been > concerned at these figures so shortly before the AGM, due to the > potential risk of entryism. > > Membership jumped from a total of 147 (a five year low) in May 2017, > to the all time record high the following month of 498, i.e. new > sign-ups that month more than *tripled* the total membership. > > A second question - the report of membership numbers has been updated > every month for the past five years.[1] It has not been updated since > October 2017. Could anyone confirm what the most recent membership > numbers are so the report can be updated? > > P.S. the links in the FAQ about the register of members are out of > date, the companylawclub link is a 404 error and the companieshouse > link advises to go to their new website. > > Links: > > 1. https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Membership/Numbers > > > 2. > > https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Volunteers_-_Frequently_Asked_ > Questions#Why_do_you_keep_a_register_of_members.3F > > > > Thanks, > Fae > -- > [email protected] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia UK mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia UK mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk > > > > -- > [email protected] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia UK mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimediauk-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > > ------------------------------ > > End of Wikimediauk-l Digest, Vol 153, Issue 5 > ********************************************* > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia UK mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk >
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