Completely agree Jonathan. Let's hope that your more positive scenario is
the one that happens - it's certainly what we (and I know many others,
including your good self) advocate to the sector. Best, Lucy

On Thu, 4 Jan 2024 at 11:10, WereSpielChequers <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Re: "It is certainly strange to me that some cultural organisations pursue
> image licensing as a loss making venture that also borders on copyfraud..."
>
> I'm hoping that museums will still want to spend money on digitising their
> content. But we need to be realistic, if they can't subsidise that by
> getting at least some of the money back from image licensing, they may do
> less of it.
>
> Of course rumour has it that some institutions weren't even getting as
> much from image licencing as it cost them to market and sell those images.
> My hope is that fewer institutions will think of digitisation in terms of
> fundraising and more in terms of fulfilling their mission of preserving and
> recording their collection and making their collections available to all.
>
> But my fear is that there will be more items that can only be seen if
> visited and the only available images are photos of the painting on mugs
> and jigsaws from the museum shop.
>
> Jonathan
>
>
>
> On Wed, 3 Jan 2024 at 14:39, Andy Mabbett <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 3 Jan 2024 at 09:39, Deryck Chan <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > I'm slightly confused by the article. It refers to THJ vs Sheridan
>> (2023)
>> > but that ruling was about software-generated graphs and said nothing
>> > about reproducing out-of-copyright content?
>>
>> It doesn't need to. It clarifies the conditions under which a
>> copyright is created; the subject matter is immaterial.
>>
>> See paragraphs 14-16 ("The Law"), in particular:
>>
>> "What is required [for copyright to exist] is that the author was able
>> to express their creative abilities in the production of the work by
>> making free and creative choices so as to stamp the work created with
>> their
>> personal touch [...] This criterion is not satisfied where the content
>> of the work is dictated by technical considerations, rules or other
>> constraints which leave no room for creative freedom"
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