Thanks Erik, but as Rex said it will make things clearer.
Unrelated: The game was interesting. Proved to Rex and I we don't know Africa much. *Burundi* was very difficult to locate. :D. On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 10:43 PM, Nkansah Rexford <[email protected]>wrote: > Thanks Erik for the detailed explanation. > > In other words, please can the detailed explanation be summarized down to > 3 to 5 sentences? Though detailed, it adds more confusion for me as the > answer to "*what a real edit is*" isn't clear for me. > > Will really appreciate that. > > Thank you. > > rexford > > > On Wednesday, November 27, 2013, Erik Zachte wrote: > >> Isla, >> >> >> >> Two different sets of wikistats reports use a slightly different >> definition of ’edit’. With one major difference. >> >> >> >> 1 >> >> The dump based reports (e.g. on articles, editors, etc) count every >> revision of a page stored in the database, >> >> for articles which are perceived to be encyclopedic content or ‘content’ >> for short. >> >> For most wikis only namespace 0 is such countable content. >> >> A few wikis have extra namespaces deemed as content, which these are can >> be queried via an API call. >> >> From these namespaces formally only pages containing an internal link are >> to be included (but in practice all are, as that info is not always >> available). >> >> Again with the exception of redirects which are always excluded. >> >> >> >> Then Wikistats reports list counts separately for registered users, anons >> and bots >> >> See e.g. >> http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/TablesWikipediaEN.htm#editor_activity_levelsand >> other tables on that page >> >> >> >> 2 >> >> Our traffic reports, based on server logs, count any page submit to any >> wiki html page, no matter which namespace. >> >> But the proportion of edits to non encyclopedic content is pretty small, >> so no big deal. >> >> >> >> Here bots are filtered at all (assuming x+ edits per day signals a bot, >> taking few false positives for granted) >> >> Major difference: These scripts do not know about logged-in status of >> person (so total edit count is larger). >> >> As these reports look into geo-distribution this is well worth >> mentioning. >> >> >> >> >> http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikimedia/squids/SquidReportPageEditsPerCountryOverview2013Q3.htm >> >> >> >> In both occasions only a final submit of an edit is counted, not the >> opening of the page in edit mode, or previews. >> >> >> >> >> >> (also resending response to Rupert to all) >> >> >> >> Rupert, >> >> >> >> The report you mention is actually to be replaced by a more precise one. >> >> Numbers for that report were based on 1:1000 sampled log. >> >> >> >> New reports for edits use 1:1 unsampled log and are hence fully precise. >> >> And numbers are monthly edits. >> >> See for example this quarterly report: >> >> >> http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikimedia/squids/SquidReportPageEditsPerCountryOverview2013Q3.htm >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> Erik >> >> >> >> PS >> >> Unrelated: today I saw this nice quiz: >> >> http://youdontknowafrica.com/?location=africa >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Isla Haddow-Flood [mailto:[email protected]] >> *Sent:* Monday, November 25, 2013 11:58 >> *To:* rupert THURNER; [email protected]; >> [email protected]; wikimediaza; Erik Zachte >> *Subject:* Re: [Wikimedia ZA] page edits per country ... >> >> >> >> Hi Rupert >> >> Thank you for the statistics! >> >> I have often wondered that question and perhaps it is something we should >> ask Erik Zachte who collates the stats (and is now cc’d in this email). >> However, I am also not sure what exactly how to define a ‘real’ edit >> (excuse my naïveté). Does it mean one not created by a bot? Or the length >> of the text contributed, or indeed the quality of text. I am not sure how >> one measures the difference and if there is a tool for doing so. >> >> Erik, perhaps you could clarify for us? >> >> Warmest >> Isla >> ------------------------------ >> >> WikiAfrica >> >> *Isla Haddow-Flood*Project Manager: Africa >> >> tel: +27 21 418 3336 >> skype: islahaddow >> twitter: @wikiafrica >> et started: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiAfrica >> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Islahaddow >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From: *rupert THURNER <[email protected]> >> *Date: *Mon, 25 Nov 2013 09:16:23 +0100 >> *To: *"[email protected]" < >> [email protected]>, "[email protected]" < >> [email protected]>, wikimediaza < >> [email protected]> >> *Subject: *[Wikimedia ZA] page edits per country ... >> >> hi >> >> here page edits per month and country: >> >> http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikimedia/squids/SquidReportPageEditsPerCountryOverview.htm >> >> for Africa: >> 15'000 Egypt >> 10'000 south Africa >> 6'000 algeria >> 5'000 marocco >> 3'000 tunesia >> 2'000 kenya >> 1'000 angola >> 1'000 ghana >> >> I am wondering how these numbers should be read. 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