I would LOVE it if the output gave user names instead of user IDs. Often
the data makes me want to investigate the individual stories of
contributors who added a lot of content/made a lot of edits/etc., but
there's no way of doing that with user IDs since I can't convert user IDs
to usernames.




On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Dario Taraborelli <
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> thanks for the clarification Jaimee – it sounds like we should consider
> adding user_names to the output if this is the main cause of the problem
> instead of building functionality at the input to deal with this. Dan, any
> thoughts?
>
> BTW this notion of rerunning cohort analysis for members of a previous
> cohort who meet specific criteria is a use case that Product/Editor
> Engagement is also interested in. We used to call these “generated cohorts”
> in the old design plans for UserMetrics and I’d love if we revisited this
> feature requests and its relative priority.
>
> D
>
> On Nov 26, 2013, at 2:35 PM, Jaime Anstee <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Missed the question back to me, sorry.  Mixed cohorts might occur due to
> the output as user IDs while collection is of usernames - say someone has a
> repeating events and has a csv output of data for those new users that were
> retained at a certain activity level from Point A to B and then has new
> cohort members opt in at Point B but only wants to include those that
> already survived from Point A and new at Point B  cohort members for
> examining at another Point C.  Without the output of usernames to create
> the active Point B cohort separately this would make the Point C cohort a
> mix of qualified user ids and new user names.  There are several ways of
> dealing with this, it was just the first scenario I could think of that
> could cause this.  Seems we still need to revisit the possibility of
> accessing usernames as output, also for reasons of matching to other data
> points where most users and most program leaders do not know user ids -
> Jaime
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> On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Dario Taraborelli <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> that works for me, thanks!
>>
>> Jaimee – can you give us more details on the use case for mixed cohorts
>> that you had in mind?
>>
>> On Nov 22, 2013, at 3:28 PM, Dan Andreescu <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> So, for now, until I figure out how to fix this, it will always prefer
>>>> user_names before user_ids.
>>>
>>>
>>>  I think this is an argument for making users specifying whether it's
>>> names or ids up front, and not allowing mixtures. Assuming it might be a
>>> mixture and looking for names first is almost certain to produce inaccurate
>>> results at some point. We have ids precisely to avoid collisions with
>>> names, allowing for renaming users, and other cases.
>>>
>>
>> Yep, I just learned this the hard way and made a fool of myself in front
>> of a bunch of people I admire.  So, I'd be glad if I'm the only one that
>> this happens to.  If nobody objects, I'm going to allow the user to select
>> whether their cohort contains user_ids OR user_names, and strictly prohibit
>> mixtures.
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