Well... that solves that then. Why, Tah emailed me especially considering the fact I haven't hung out in #wikinews is a curiousity to me... but whatever... issue resolved to my satisfaction.
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 8:29 AM, Tahrim Ramdjan <[email protected]>wrote: > So it seems i did things wrong... :S Well, i only know that this isnt the > way we handle at the Dutch Wikipedia, but sorry by then and goodbye. > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Jon Davis > *Sent:* maandag 28 september 2009 4:51 > *To:* Wikinews mailing list > *Cc:* TahR78 > *Subject:* Re: [Wikinews-l] Fwd: Wikinews e-mail about IRC complaining > > > > Wow. Talk about a speedy email about this topic. This conversation > started August 20th, 2009 @ 05:19 PST (12:19 UTC?). > > If the group is curious, I can provided a full copy of the chat transcript, > but after reading...this is a non issue. The user in question (Tahr78) who > I'm CC'ing (out of the kindness of my heart) was having... difficulties. > > He was extremely insistent that our maps were broken, and that there was no > other explanation. NeoAmsterdam and Gopher65 attempted to explain to the > user that the maps seemed to be working correctly, that the maps were not > country/continent average temperatures (I guess the Netherlands is so small > they dont bother giving people the weather other than the national average > temp?!) and that the tooltips showed that the temperature in question was > for East Midlands, England and not the Netherlands. Apparently the users > tooltips were not working, and that's Wikinews's fault. When NeoAmsterdam > explained that this wasn't our fault, the user threw a tantrum. > > At this point the conversation goes way down hill with the user repeatedly > quitting and re-joining the channel. Right after he quits the first time, > he gets his "friend" to join the channel under the username > "Olivier_Bommel". The user (along with his friend) continue tossing in bits > of commentary here or there and generally being a pain in the ass > > After a bit of this on & off, we get to the "threat". Since the user is > accusing NeoAmsterdam of making threats over IRC, I'm pulling out the 4 > lines of relevant text here for everyone: > (6:26:46 AM) NeoAmsterdam: Since you insist, TahR78, I'll say it: > (6:26:46 AM) NeoAmsterdam: The Dutch were fools for surrendering New > Amsterdam so quickly to the English. > (6:26:46 AM) NeoAmsterdam: There. I've said it. I feel better. > (6:26:46 AM) NeoAmsterdam: ^_^ > > In short, there was no threatening behavior going on. NeoAmsterdam did > nothing wrong in my book in handling this user. In fact, if I had been the > one on, I would have ban hammered both TahR78 and his friend Olivier_Bommel > from the channel for being disruptive. > > -Jon > > On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 17:14, Patrick Mannion <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Dunno why I got this, I hardly hang out on the IRC channel, but nontheless > something for you guys to look at... > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: *TahR78* <[email protected]> > Date: Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 8:09 PM > Subject: Wikinews e-mail about IRC complaining > To: TUFKAAP <[email protected]> > > > Hi Tufkaap, > > Im sorry for disturbing you in this late hour (in where i live, Europe, it > is now night). I want to complain about an user on IRC, he is much on it. > Lets start with the story: > > So, i and friends were looking because we were bored, one of my friends > said that he found a weather map of Europe. We were going to watch, it was a > Celsius map, but it wasnt right. So we joined the IRC channel of Wikinews > and we were going to report it. First time nobody reacted, second time also > nobody. Thirth time finally somebody was waken up and listened to us. I just > nice said ''Hey, there's a kind of fault in this template''. The user i've > spoken to, NeoAmsterdam, didnt appreciate that very much. He said to me on a > not so nice way that i have to look better, because it are airports. It > would stand on a tooltip. Well, tooltips doesnt work on this computer on > that day, so i made him that clear. Than everybody said something and, > NeoAmsterdam also said that he thinks that the Dutch were stupid to give New > Amsterdam to the British. > > When he said that, i thought he was going to hurt me, but he didnt. First > of all, i cant fix it that New York isnt now New Amsterdam, so dont blame me > that and second, it doesnt touch me, because i am born in Holland, but my > parents come from a whole other country. I leaved the channel, but friends > were still on the channel and said me that they were talking bad about me. > > Well, i am not hurt, no, i could even laugh about what NeoAmsterdam said. I > am experienced with wiki's, i have a account on the Dutch Wikipedia as well, > and have crossuser on, so i can log in on every Wikimedia wiki. But i have > also experience on other wiki's like from Wikia. I know this isnt the usual > way, im sorry for that, but i donk think this is a nice way to explain > things to (new) users on Wikinews, especially foreigners. Also when you are > talking bad about a newbie on a wiki, that isnt the right thing i think? > > (Why i choosen you is because when i said on the IRC channel some days ago, > somebody prefered you. Hope you dont mind my bad English, because i am not > so old (11, 12 years) and still Dutch, so i am not a very expert in English. > Hope you understand this situation, maybe i made a big thing of it but just > wanted to say this.. Only time when i contributed to Wikinews was with a > article about the attack on the Dutch queen, no more). > > Sorry for the long mail and disturbing you, but i just wanted this to say. > Please note that it is a long time ago when this happened, you will be > surprised why i send this mail NOW, well, its simple: i didnt have any time. > I have also accounts on other much internet communities. There were more > people at that IRC conversation but i can only remember NeoAmsterdam. > > Greetings from TahR78 > ---- > Want to send a reaction, you can mail this email adress back or leave a > note on my dutch Wikipedia talk page, my name there is also TahR78, however > i dont prefer that because it isnt necessary to tell every Dutch Wikipedians > about this story. > > -- > This e-mail was sent by TahR78 to TUFKAAP by the "E-mail user" function at > Wikinews. > > > > > -- > Autism is both a gift and a curse at the same time; But I think of it as a > gift. > > _______________________________________________ > Wikinews-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikinews-l > > > > > -- > Jon > [[User:ShakataGaNai]] > http://snowulf.com/ - Blog > http://snowulf.imagekind.com/ - Pictures > This has been a test of the emergency sig system. > > _______________________________________________ > Wikinews-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikinews-l > > -- Autism is both a gift and a curse at the same time; But I think of it as a gift.
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