I am pretty certain that I saw that Jarekt was involved with the book task
force. I definitely saw his name on the page, and I know that I have
pointed at some specific components to them.

Regards, Billinghurst


On Fri, 17 May 2013 12:45:28 +0200, Alex Brollo <[email protected]>
wrote:
> If I can add a comment, I suggest that Commons should be included into
> wikidata net as soon as possible, since it shares with wikidata its
feature
> of being "a unique container" and book metadata are already shared
between
> all wikisource projects and Commons for a central group of works (the
> "proofread" ones). I suggest too to keep wikidata staff in contact with
> Jarekt, who works hardly  into Commons and is particularly interested
about
> books and "creators" (i.e. authors).
> 
> In my opinion, the fast inclusion of Commons into Wikidata net will
solve
> most issues of wikisource projects too.
> 
> Alex
> 
> 
> 2013/5/17 Andrea Zanni <[email protected]>
> 
>>
>> On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Ed Summers <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Can you provide more information about what decision needs to be made
>>> about the relationship between Wikidata and Wikisource?
>>>
>>
>> I will try, and hopefully Micru (who knows Wikidata much better than
me)
>> will follow up.
>>
>> Wikidata right know is integrated with Wikipedia only.
>> Sister projects (as Wikisource) are now not taken in consideration,
>> because each one is different and must be taken iin consideration
>> indipendently.
>> This is at least the opinion of the development tem (whom we speak to
>> several times).
>>
>> One of the main issue is that, right know,
>> Wikidata will store books metadata for Wikipedia pages, and that, in
FRBR
>> jargon, are "work" metadata (see
>>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Functional_Requirements_for_Bibliographic_Records
>> )
>> Wikipedia articles, in most cases, talk about "books in general" ("The
>> Hamlet", "Don Quixote", etc.).
>>
>> Wikisource, on the other end, works with "editions" ("manifestation" in
>> FRBR), which need more metadata
>> (edition, year of the edition, language, translator, etc.)
>> This is the very same issues of djvu files on Commons, which store
>> metadata into the Book template.
>>
>> Now,
>>  the problem is that, as I said before, Wikidata doen't talk with
Commons
>> and Wikisource (yet).
>> And it's a duty of the community to decide *how*, for example, store
>> "edition metadata" in Wikidata.
>>
>> We, for example, could create an item for every book edition we use in
>> Wikisource/Commons.
>> Or we could use *qualifiers*, and add these data in the main item
related
>> to the book.
>> The latter is Micru's proposal, and he made a mockup:
>> https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q4115189&oldid=35796153
>>
>> I think it's the best proposal, as today,
>> and if you agree you can support it:
>>
>>
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_comment/References_and_sources#How_to_store_edition_data
>>
>>
>> I hope this clarification helped a bit.
>>
>> Aubrey
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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