+ for open library

On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Andrea Zanni <[email protected]>wrote:

> Bibliographical properties on Wikidata are listed here:
> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Books_task_force
>
> In the last months, we tried to creade a metadata scheme to "cover" the
> main elements of book classification.
> It is not MARC21, of course, but I think that pretty much simple Dublin
> Core is covered.
> At the beginning, I drafted a mapping between different Wikimedia project
> templates (Wikipedia book Infobox, Commons' template Book, Wikisource's
> Index metadata form)
>
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlPNcNlN2oqvdFQyR2F5YmhrMWpXaUFkWndQWUZyemc#gid=0
> It is far from perfect, but it gives an idea of which things could be
> missing.
>
> I'd love too to collaborate with openlibrary, but at the beginning of our
> IEG project, me and Micru contacted them, in the person of Karen Coyle
> (User:Kcoyle),
> a very famous and skilled metadata librarian who is somehow in charge of
> the project now.
> She told us that openlibrary is frozen, at the moment, and there is no
> staff nor funds to get that going.
> Openlibrary was previously funded but internet Archive.
>
> If someone could build the tool you proposed, Luiz, that would be awesome,
> but I'm not a technical person and I'm not able to understnd if that is
> feasible or not.
> If we have other feedbacks on that, we could propose it as a projects for
> the next Google Summer of Code: that is a great way to getting technical
> things done.
>
> Aubrey
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 5:04 AM, Luiz Augusto <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Thomas Douillard <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> That's why I think we must do a lot more with such datas than just
>>> importing them from openlibrary, as they are really important to Mediawiki
>>> in general, and that the community as a whole is a powerful drinving force
>>> for Bibliographical datas. I'm not against cooperating with openlibrary,
>>> but we should seek deep cooperation and integration with them so both
>>> projects can benefits from each others community.
>>>
>>
>> +1 on this
>>
>> openlibrary.org have a limited set of fields.
>>
>> Moreover, simply importing data at some random time of some random
>> records will not benefit neither openlibrary neither Wikimedia.
>>
>> You will first need to search if Wikidata don't have the needed
>> information, search again for it in openlibrary, create the content in
>> openlibrary, import the content into Wikidata, make the desired local
>> changes and send back to openlibrary any local relevant changes.
>>
>> But I had an idea: a MediaWiki User Interface to openlibrary data
>>
>> openlibrary.org offers access to records in 3 ways:
>>
>>  * read/write of individual records through API;
>> * read of individual records through RDF and JSON;
>> * bulk download of the entire dataset
>>
>> So i'ts possible to:
>>
>> 1) Import the bulk data;
>> 2) Catch all changes from openlibrary.org in real time;
>> 3) Allows that the synced data can be browsable and editable at any time
>> on MediaWiki/Wikidata instances;
>> 4) Sends back to openlibrary the changes, storing locally the data from
>> custom fields in the MediaWiki instance (allowing further import at
>> openlibrary instance if they creates the corresponding fields in their DB);
>> 5) Sends back to openlibrary all new book records created on MediaWiki
>> instances.
>>
>>
>>
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