I would be happy to ask money to Wikimedia France. But right now, I don't
know what is the most important thing to develop on Wikisource. It's
clearly not Annotation and TEI. If it is Epub or OCR. Could someone
describe what do you need ? An idea of the cost would be great, but just
few sentences describing the project would be useful.

Pyb

2014-11-26 13:25 GMT+01:00 Andrea Zanni <[email protected]>:

> I don't think that money is "strictly" the problem.
> I just think that if sister projects (well, I'll talk about Wikisource
> here) would be "in the minds" of developers and project managers, they
> would really scale.
> I mean: the WMF thinks all the time about Wikipedia.
> They have staff on it who thinks about software maintenance, software
> development, editor retention, GLAM relationships, and I could go on and
> on.
> Why sister project do not fit in *any* of this?
>
> *Everything* which has been done on Wikisource has been done by volunteers
> (sometime by the chapters).
> All the crucial software developments I know (the proofread page, for
> example) has been done by ThomasV, Tpt, Phe (I personally don't know
> others).
> The community recently thought about Google Summer of Codes to have people
> deveops tools and piece of software. They do, but then it's almost
> impossible to really integrate them in the main software, so they are left
> there.
> The Individual Engagement Grant that me and David did was simply aimed to
> gather the community and try to do things together, spread the good ideas,
> join scattered individuals and communities.
> We had some results, that the WMF could take and build upon (think about
> the survey).
>
> I'm getting a little tired, every year at Wikimania, to hear the same
> praise of Wikisource by WMF Board or Staff but being told that we are
> "supported" but not in the "priority list".
> I would think that there are some many low hanging fruits that donors
> money would be well spent (ie. the Wikisource contest that is running now
> on several Wikisources. In Italy, the chapter gave 100 euros for the
> prizes, and we gained 4300 proofread pages in a single week (it takes 6
> months for the community to get those numbers)).
>
> I'm sorry if I sound like a broken record, but it's my perception that a
> minimal effort from the WMF could lead to major results. I still don't
> understand why they do not think about that.
>
> Aubrey
>
> PS: I think about the WMF because for chapters is more difficult to step
> in and work on core software related matters. Chapters can and do work on
> GLAM partnerships, liasons, collaboration, digitization plans. "Local"
> stuff. At least, that is my perception (also, as a chapter president).
>
> On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 12:53 PM, Pierre-Yves Beaudouin <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Again, money is not the problem. Chapters may probably help Wikisource.
>> Crowdfunding could also be a solution.
>>
>> Pyb
>>
>> 2014-11-26 12:38 GMT+01:00 Federico Leva (Nemo) <[email protected]>:
>>
>> See https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants_talk:APG/Staff_
>>> proposal_assessment_form : there seems to still be an assumption that
>>> Wikipedia is ok by default while everything else needs to be justified.
>>>
>>> Nemo
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