Hi, I am also going to be at Wikidata Con.
In the French Wikisource we started a Wikidata project. https://fr.wikisource.org/wiki/Aide:Wikidata We plan to do a small hackathon soon to start uploading our book data to Wikidata (I already have a prototype of tools that extract data from Wikisource to upload them to Wikidata but it still needs some work to do the job well). > Still my biggest issues/hurdles for good data are > • capture of information from WS to WD — it just is hard work, WEF tool > is still not sufficiently aligned Yes, we need some specific tools. > • the ever problematic inability to link WP book to WS edition through > Wikidata What we could do is use the new Wikisource MediaWiki extension to add a piece of code to add links to Wikipedia from Wikisource and to the other Wikisources. We could start prototyping it using lua modules. > • that cannot capture information for Wikidata at archive.org, and > relate that through to the file at Commons, and then the edition at > Wikisource (or pick another starting point and interrelate0 In Wikidata you can point to the commons file and to IA [1] > • the inability to create an edition from a book/work, the inability to > create a work from an edition Yes, we should create a UI on top of Wikidata to do such task. Thomas [1] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P724 > Le 23 oct. 2017 à 13:48, Gerard Meijssen <[email protected]> a écrit : > > Hoi, > A Wikipedia matra is be bold and another is that things are a work in > progress. In my opinion, what we need is the name of a book, its author and > the fact that people can read it. All the other stuff like what "version" is > a particular book pales in comparison. We should not let the quest for > perfection be the enemy of the good. > > Also Archive.org and Open Library are two different entities. Both the Open > Library and the Internet Archive have their own identifiers for authors and > they are not necessarily linked. We are talking about books from the Open > Library and they are available as an E-book or a PDF. > > My problem is not with Open Library, my problem is that we do not know what > is available from Wikisource as a finished good ready for reading. In the end > what we advertise is the author the book, versions are secondary. > Thanks, > GerardM > > On 23 October 2017 at 12:36, billinghurst <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Nicolas, > > Still my biggest issues/hurdles for good data are > • capture of information from WS to WD — it just is hard work, WEF tool > is still not sufficiently aligned > • the ever problematic inability to link WP book to WS edition through > Wikidata > • that cannot capture information for Wikidata at archive.org, and > relate that through to the file at Commons, and then the edition at > Wikisource (or pick another starting point and interrelate0 > • the inability to create an edition from a book/work, the inability to > create a work from an edition > Maybe you can even ask what we need to improve to get bots to run through and > autocapture, is our meta-data in headers not suitable? What is it that is > problematic? > > Thanks for asking. > > -- billinghurst (being so remote for the action <sigh>) > > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "Nicolas VIGNERON" <[email protected]> > To: "discussion list for Wikisource, the free library" > <[email protected]> > Sent: 23/10/2017 7:30:44 PM > Subject: [Wikisource-l] WikidataCon 2017 > >> Hi all, >> >> For information, the WikidataCon is this week-end in Berlin. While there is >> no talk nominatively around Wikisource, there is some intervention on >> relation subjects (inventaire.io, WikiCite, German National Library, FRBR, >> and so on). >> >> The event is sold out, but you can follow remotely some of the presentation >> (link will be added here : >> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikidataCon_2017/Program/Remote ). >> >> I'll be there and I'll be happy to talk about Wikisource, who else will be >> there? >> >> Cdlt, ~nicolas > > _______________________________________________ > Wikisource-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikisource-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
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