Hallo there, I just wanted to tell you, that I am also at WikidataCon in Berlin (Saturday, Sunday). I would be glad, if I could help out regarding de.ws-issues.
@Andrea, just to remember: at WikiCite there was agreement on Work, Edition (Translation beeing an edition) and Volume, I am correct? Best Anika 2017-10-25 14:08 GMT+02:00 billinghurst <[email protected]>: > oops, circulated reply settings weren't correct yesterday ... > > (clearly I need to go to bed, THIS one) > > ------ Forwarded Message ------ > From: "billinghurst" <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Sent: 25/10/2017 11:06:37 PM > Subject: Fw: Re[2]: [Wikisource-l] WikidataCon 2017 > > oops, circulated reply settings weren't correct yesterday ... > > ------ Forwarded Message ------ > From: "billinghurst" <[email protected]> > To: "Gerard Meijssen" <[email protected]> > Sent: 24/10/2017 11:48:51 PM > Subject: Re[2]: [Wikisource-l] WikidataCon 2017 > > Gerard, > > Then ... what would be valuable is a tool that can change the interwiki > badge. At the moment, there are no tools that enable us to be able to > change a work from not proofread, to proofread, to validated. We know the > status of each work at the respective Wikisource through the Index: ns > page, so we should be able to botify pushing that status through to the > interwiki. There was a technical inability that prevented it being done > from memory. and I have a ticket there somewhere in the phabricator morass > for Wikidata. > > For example enW validated works are at https://en.wikisource.org/ > wiki/Special:PagesWithBadges?badge=Q20748093 [I know that I have > incrementally changing flags for the works that I have done, but as a > manual process it just takes time. ] > > Taking the validated and proofread works (from Index namespace at enWS) > would give you 4000 works. Once that is done, we can then also start > pulling that data back to the wikis, and with good templating we can then > look utilise that on Author pages. > > Regards, Billinghurst > > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "Gerard Meijssen" <[email protected]> > To: "billinghurst" <[email protected]>; "discussion list for > Wikisource, the free library" <[email protected]> > Sent: 23/10/2017 10:48:45 PM > Subject: Re: [Wikisource-l] WikidataCon 2017 > > Hoi, > A Wikipedia matra is be bold and another is that things are a work in > progress. In my opinion, what we need is the name of a book, its author and > the fact that people can read it. All the other stuff like what "version" > is a particular book pales in comparison. We should not let the quest for > perfection be the enemy of the good. > > Also Archive.org and Open Library are two different entities. Both the > Open Library and the Internet Archive have their own identifiers for > authors and they are not necessarily linked. We are talking about books > from the Open Library and they are available as an E-book or a PDF. > > My problem is not with Open Library, my problem is that we do not know > what is available from Wikisource as a finished good ready for reading. In > the end what we advertise is the author the book, versions are secondary. > Thanks, > GerardM > > On 23 October 2017 at 12:36, billinghurst <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Hi Nicolas, >> >> Still my biggest issues/hurdles for good data are >> >> - capture of information from WS to WD — it just is hard work, WEF >> tool is still not sufficiently aligned >> - the ever problematic inability to link WP book to WS edition >> through Wikidata >> - that cannot capture information for Wikidata at archive.org, and >> relate that through to the file at Commons, and then the edition at >> Wikisource (or pick another starting point and interrelate0 >> - the inability to create an edition from a book/work, the inability >> to create a work from an edition >> >> Maybe you can even ask what we need to improve to get bots to run through >> and autocapture, is our meta-data in headers not suitable? What is it that >> is problematic? >> >> Thanks for asking. >> >> -- billinghurst (being so remote for the action <sigh>) >> >> >> ------ Original Message ------ >> From: "Nicolas VIGNERON" <[email protected]> >> To: "discussion list for Wikisource, the free library" < >> [email protected]> >> Sent: 23/10/2017 7:30:44 PM >> Subject: [Wikisource-l] WikidataCon 2017 >> >> Hi all, >> >> For information, the WikidataCon is this week-end in Berlin. While there >> is no talk nominatively around Wikisource, there is some intervention on >> relation subjects (inventaire.io, WikiCite, German National Library, >> FRBR, and so on). >> >> The event is sold out, but you can follow remotely some of the >> presentation (link will be added here : https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/ >> Wikidata:WikidataCon_2017/Program/Remote ). >> >> I'll be there and I'll be happy to talk about Wikisource, who else will >> be there? >> >> Cdlt, ~nicolas >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikisource-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikisource-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l > >
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