On 11 July 2014 18:09, Brian Wolff <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 7/11/14, Jared Zimmerman <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Hello Ambassadors,
> >
> > Would love to get your feedback and input on a proposed change to default
> > thumbnail size on wikis, a similar change was made about 2 years ago
> moving
> > the default from 180px to 220px, due to the increase in pixel density and
> > screen sizes, both on mobile devices and desktops/laptops users,
> especially
> > on mobile are feeling that images are too small, certainly out of step
> with
> > what they are used to other places on the web.
> >
> > Based on research from the Analytics group "There are 15580 instances
> > logged across 393 wikis in log.PrefUpdate_5563398" to the preference that
> > stores thumbnail default size. On english Wikipedia the current value is
> > 220px for "default" sized thumbnail images, the size logged in and logged
> > out users see if they haven't manually changed their preference. Of the
> > ~15k users who have changes this preference the trend is to set the
> > preference to a larger size, usually 300px as seen by the graph included
> in
> > the bug for this issue eventually I'd love for us to move to responsively
> > sized images, but perhaps thats a seperate discussion.
> >
> > If we could try to wrap things up mid-next week (July 16) so I can work
> > with Operations to make
> >
> > Discussion on Technical Village Pump
> >
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28technical%29#Time_for_the_semi-annual_enlarging_of_thumbnail_images
> >
> > Bug
> > https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=67703
> >
> >
> > *Jared Zimmerman * \\  Director of User Experience \\ Wikimedia
> Foundation
> >
> > M +1 415 609 4043 \\  @jaredzimmerman <http://loo.ms/g0>
> >
>
> Last time this was brought up (and the time before) it was vetoed.
> Have you discussed this with ops first? I would hate for wikipedians
> to get their hopes up just for it to be vetoed again.
>
> --bawolff
>
>
Yes, there are two occasions where this has been officially rejected and
listed on the limits to configuration changes page because of performance
issues, once in 2012 and once in 2013. [1] In other words, these aren't
years-old decisions.

Risker/Anne


[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Limits_to_configuration_changes
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