Hi Nick, Thanks for this update. I was wondering if cross-wiki watchlists are also something on the Collaboration team roadmap (since you mentioned examining Crosswatch)?
Cheers. On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 6:21 AM, Rachel diCerbo <[email protected]> wrote: > Thank you for the update! > > On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Nick Wilson (Quiddity) < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > Hi, this is an update on the work we in the Collaboration team are > > doing. Our focus is on cross-wiki notifications and other back-end > > improvements to that system. > > > > Our long-term goals are to make various improvements to the Notification > > system. > > > > Notifications are at the core of many different on-wiki activities. > > Making notifications easy to find and use can help those processes. We > > are focusing our immediate plans on supporting cross-wiki > > notifications. These will help editors stay informed about the changes > > they care about on every Wikimedia project on which they work. This is > > especially important for the editors who work on more than one wiki. > > Examples include if you upload to Commons, curate on Wikidata, or edit > > in two or more languages. > > > > The team has spent the last few weeks researching the existing and > > proposed features. This has included examining existing tools such as > > Crosswatch. We've been considering the problems of: > > > > * technical performance (scaling the requests across 800+ wikis), > > * user preferences (both existing and desired), > > * user interface design possibilities (how it should work), > > * how to release an initial, user-testable version for feedback and > > improvement, and > > * how to measure the impact of the project (reducing the time it takes > > to process a notification). > > > > We are also doing user research via 1-on-1 interviews. In these we ask > > active editors about their current notification usage and pain-points. > > Using a prototype we are evolving, we get feedback on directions to > > take the design. > > > > == Details and further reading == > > You can read more about the technical details at: > > > > > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Cross-wiki_notifications > > . > > > > Some of the new backend improvements to Echo: > > https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107823 ("Rewrite > > EchoNotificationFormatter") and linked tasks. > > > > User preference options are: > > * https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117670 ("Define Cross-wiki > > Notifications settings") > > > > User interface design possibilities cover several questions. For > > example, how should cross-wiki notifications look within the pop-up? > > How and when should we add enhancements to the Special:Notifications > > page to filter things? We are drafting and discussing these in: > > > > * https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114357 (Clarifications to the > > currently confusing "primary/secondary" link, and proposed future > > enhancements) > > * https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114356 (Bundled notifications) > > * https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115264 (Controlling notification > > 'volume' based on the type or location) > > * https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115845 (Clearer use of the > > notification badges (coloured number in personal toolbar)) > > * https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115316 (Better organization of > > the Special:Notifications page) > > > > Note: Most of these are not part of the cross-wiki notifications > > feature. We won't for sure roll all these out together with the main > > change. > > > > We started user research at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114086 > > and it continues at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T116741 . (Note: > > You can sign-up as a volunteer at https://wikimedia.org/research .) > > > > A user-testable release is still just in planning. We decided on a > > Beta Feature on each wiki as the most scalable and least confusing of > > all the do-able options. Read our plans in > > https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114237 ("Present cross-wiki > > notifications as a beta feature to users"). This will help users to > > try the feature anytime, disabling it if it interferes with their work > > in some context, and easily suggest how the tool could be improved. > > > > There is no system for users having or setting cross-wiki preferences. > > Waiting to building this would take a long time. For now, we plan to > > let you enable the Beta Feature at each wiki on which you want to test > > it. This will let you have a small-scale Beta Feature that you can all > > try out. We will be able to discover bugs, edge-cases, iterate more, > > and get even more feedback. Later, when we know what features you > > need, we can build such a cross-wiki preferences system (including the > > task linked above). > > > > Whilst you wait, we would love to hear your feedback on the above. > > What comments, what design ideas, and what technical concerns do you > > have? Please tell us on the linked tasks if you can. > > > > I'll send further updates, when the planned Beta Feature is about to be > > ready. > > > > On behalf of the Collaboration team, thank you to everyone who has > > given your help already. > > > > -- > > Nick Wilson / Quiddity > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikitech-ambassadors mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-ambassadors > > > > > > -- > > Rachel diCerbo > Director of Community Engagement (Product) > Wikimedia Foundation > Rdicerb (WMF) <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rdicerb_%28WMF%29 > > > @a_rachel <https://twitter.com/a_rachel> > _______________________________________________ > Wikitech-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > -- Niharika Software Engineer (International) Wikimedia Foundation [User:NiharikaKohli]
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