I know that it is a tough call to find the balance. Much appreciated that you made the effort.
That page link with some puffery has been added to VP equivalent pages at enWS and meta. -- billinghurst On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 12:02 PM, Nick Wilson (Quiddity) <[email protected]> wrote: > Billinghurst, thank you for the feedback. > > I've tried to trim back as much detail and jargon as possible, whilst > still answering your points, and made a translatable version at > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Notifications/Sorting_schemes > > Further suggestions welcome. (Finding a balance between simplicity and > complexity (in the initial request, and the details at the > destination) is always one of the most difficult parts of technical > collaboration.) > > Hope that helps, and thanks again. > Quiddity > > On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 2:01 AM, billinghurst > <[email protected]> wrote: >> Quiddity, >> >> Unfortunately I don't see that this is in a state ready to take to our >> communities for a conversation. It is full of jargon, and many of the >> components mentioned are only specific to some wikis, not many wikis, >> and I represent an English speaking community, let alone English as a >> second-plus language. Further dumping this onto communities poking >> them to phabricator, and to mediawikiwiki talk pages is not useful for >> vast parts of our communities, or for those with fortitude. >> >> To be taken to a community it needs a tighter scope, and something >> that the community can reasonably understand what it means for that >> community, the changes that it would make and the outcome would be ... >> >> Maybe you could start with the bite-size of what is the purpose of >> phase 1, why it is urgent, what you are looking to achieve and how >> each community's can address the global needs, and/or how a >> repurposing might cause issues/ >> >> Regards, Billinghurst >> >> On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 7:40 PM, Nick Wilson (Quiddity) >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> The Collaboration team is currently working on a variety of >>> improvements and updates to the Notifications (Echo) extension.[1] >>> >>> One task is improving how the many different types of notifications >>> are sorted, into the two fly-out menus. Your feedback would be >>> especially appreciated here. >>> >>> TL;DR: Please see this spreadsheet, listing the Current split, and 3 >>> alternative groupings: >>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eVQVbzVhhVejEMnVqRBC98weBnfrnZqcGExlImsbBUk/edit#gid=0 >>> (or a simplified version, and without the 3rd more complex >>> "Experimental" grouping, at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T123018 >>> ) >>> >>> The team is currently recommending we start off with the "By urgency" >>> grouping. There is a list of Pros/Cons for each, in the spreadsheet. >>> >>> Please give us feedback, either at phabricator, or at >>> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Sw196pvf5vwt6pku >>> >>> Detailed information on the goals and background of this task, is >>> included in both the phabricator and mediawiki.org links. >>> >>> Much thanks, >>> Quiddity / Nick >>> >>> >>> [1] >>> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Notifications#Future_plans_and_requests_for_feedback >>> -- >>> Nick Wilson (Quiddity) >>> Community Liaison >>> Wikimedia Foundation >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikitech-ambassadors mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-ambassadors >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikitech-ambassadors mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-ambassadors > > > > -- > Nick Wilson (Quiddity) > Community Liaison > Wikimedia Foundation > > _______________________________________________ > Wikitech-ambassadors mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-ambassadors _______________________________________________ Wikitech-ambassadors mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-ambassadors
