> On May 1, 2025, at 12:54 PM, George Herbert <george.herb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Are the statistics you want to monitor available now over https queries?  In 
> logs somewhere?


No to both of those.


> Basically with Prometheus you start with “there exists a metric/statistic 
> that can be queried”, then you start having Prometheus query it by adding it 
> to the configuration.
> 
> However, it’s really a Prometheus Problem when you’re talking about updating 
> everything every minute or second, usually when checking across many or all 
> hosts.  A daily or hourly query in Prometheus across a whole wiki not on each 
> host is really kind of silly.  It can do that, sure, but maybe you do just 
> use a script instead?


I want a graph vs time..  Which is what statsd/graphite was good at, so I 
assumed Prometheus would also be good at it.  Why is this silly?



> 
> If the standard now is Prometheus Everything then I guess that’s ok, but 
> figuring out where to source the metrics is the next problem.  Implementation 
> after that is fairly easy…
> 
> 
> -george 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 1, 2025, at 6:40 AM, Roy Smith <r...@panix.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I want to build something to monitor the [[WP:DYK]] system on enwiki.  I 
>> want to look at the length of various queues: nominations, approved 
>> nominations, number of hook sets ready for publication, perhaps a few more.  
>> Update times will be perhaps as low as once per day, certainly no faster 
>> than once per hour.  Initially all I want to do is graph these.  Eventually 
>> I might want to do some alerting.
>> 
>> In the old days, I would just have a simple script that threw some numbers 
>> as statsd.  Looking at https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Prometheus, it 
>> looks like that translates into using the pushgateway, but it's far from 
>> clear what I need to do to set this up.  The docs talk about puppet, and 
>> certificates.  Can somebody walk me through the setup?
>> 
>> 
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