Hi Martini, When you say the error 429 "comes out" what does that mean? Where is that error displayed?
Thanks, -Travis On Thu, Jun 26, 2025 at 10:40 PM Leonid G via Wikitech-l < wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote: > Hello Timo, > > > > thank you very much for the explanation regarding CSS. Then it’s not the > root of my problem! > > > > By the way, who is Tim? I haven’t got his message. > > > > The error symbol in my screenshot is appears NOT for certain types. Some > jpg’s show perfecty up, but most are shown as errors. This goes for png and > others as well. > > > > Yes. Every wiki link to a picture of Ryazan on this page ( > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Old_map_of_Ryazan.jpg) doesn’t work > for me. An error > > “Too many requests - 47f834a351bd” comes out: > > > > *If you report this error to the Wikimedia System Administrators, please > include the details below.* > > > > *Request served via cp5030 cp5030, Varnish XID 514771340* > > *Upstream caches: cp5030 int* > > *Error: 429, Too many requests - 47f834a351bd at Fri, 27 Jun 2025 05:27:01 > GMT* > > > > But the link to the source works perfectly well. > > > > And your link: > > > https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b7/Old_map_of_Ryazan.jpg/500px-Old_map_of_Ryazan.jpg > > works for me fine as well. > > > > On the Supermium, that is overloading my system, I can see all wiki pages > perfectly, with all pictures and maps intact. And on Firefox 52 and 68 not. > So the problem is not with WinXP, it’s somewhere between the old versions > of Firefox and Wikipedia. > > > > Thanks and kind regards! > > > > Martini > ------------------------------ > > > > > > On Thu, 26 Jun 2025, at 20:05, Leonid G via Wikitech-l wrote: > > […] > > On a clear morning’s mind I’m very skeptical if this tool will solve my > issue. Wikipedia is not actively blocking the use of my browser. Its CSS > seems to have been changed so the pictures and maps do not show up. > > > > So back to my question: can I do something in my side, except for changing > the system or the browser, to see the pictures and maps again? […] > > > > The error symbol in place of the images means that CSS is not relevant > here. > > > > CSS is robust and protected against unknown rules. It's very rare that a > CSS issue could cause an image to be hidden. The only way that CSS will > hide an image, is if a developer intentionally applies a rule like opacity > 0, display none, or visibility hidden. This could in theory be done as part > of an animation, and perhaps the second part of such animation is > unsupported, in which case it could remain hidden. This would be in our > control to fix. However, if this was the case, the place where the image > goes would be blank, not display the "broken image" symbol that you see. > > > > As Tim points out, this symbol seems to only be there in your screenshot > for certain image image types and not others (JPEG vs PNG). That further > confirms there is no styling issue as that would apply to all image > thumbnails equally. > > > > Did you try opening it in a new tab? For example, open this link: > > > https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b7/Old_map_of_Ryazan.jpg/500px-Old_map_of_Ryazan.jpg > > > > This is a direct image URL. There is no HTML, CSS or JavaScript in our > control when viewing this. If the image fails there, then there is most > likely something defect in the browser or operating system. If you really > want to rule it out further, I suggest to download ("save as") the JPEG > image from this exact URL on someone else's computer, and send it to > yourself / to this computer (perhaps by email) and then drag it into a new > Firefox tab / empty browser window to view it. Does it work there? If that > works, but the same image by URL does not, then we can revisit if there's > something else going on. > > > > -- Timo > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikitech-l mailing list -- wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wikitech-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/wikitech-l.lists.wikimedia.org/ >
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