On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 5:37 PM, Alex <[email protected]> wrote:
> Chad wrote:
> > On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Alex <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> Domas Mituzas wrote:
> >>> So, a checklist what can be done ( simple to complex )
> >>>
> >>> [ ] - Simplification of {{cite}}
> >> Short of significant improvements to the parser or requireing people to
> >> ask Domas before editing the template, I can
> >>
> >>> [ ] - Separate cache for Cite, to avoid reparsing on minor edits,
> >>> that don't involve citations. I have no idea how much this would win,
> >>> but there is theoretical chance of stripping 1% or so. ;)
> >>> [ ] - Offload some templates like {{cite}} to actual PHP extensions
> >>> (can of worms, but, oh well, can be standardized process too)
> >> I've actually considered something like this in the past, basically
> >> creating a Cite 2.0 extension, where all the main cite options would be
> >> in the <ref> tags themselves with pre-defined "templates" written in PHP
> >> for web citations, book citations, etc.; this would greatly reduce the
> >> amount of stuff that needs to be done using the Cite wiki-templates and
> >> run through the parser.
> >>
> >> You would have something like:
> >>
> >> <ref author="Foo" title="Bar" type="book">Pages 1-10</ref>
> >>
> >> Any parameters in the ref tag would be converted to HTML output using
> >> the "book" template in the extension rather than a thousand parser
> >> functions in some meta-template, and only the content of the tag (the
> >> page numbers in this case) would have to be run through the parser, so
> >> it would also be backwards-compatible with the current templates until
> >> they can all be migrated.
> >>
> >> The main downside to this is that it requires someone to file a Bugzilla
> >> request every time a template needs changing.
> >>
> >
> > What about throwing them in MediaWiki: space, similar to editnotices?
> > At least then they could be cached to hell and back in the message
> > cache.
> >
> > -Chad
>
> I considered that as well, but I'm not sure how much that will actually
> help. Looking at
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe%20the%20Plumber?action=purge&forceprofile=true
>
> it took 21.796 seconds to load, most of which seems be from
> Parser::recursiveTagParse, about 90% of that that is from
> Cite::referencesFormat-parse. Even if the templates themselves are
> heavily cached, it still has to run all the conditionals and formatting
> through the parser. Heavy caching might help if there's lots of refs
> with the same content on multiple pages, but I don't think that's very
> common.
>
> --
> Alex (wikipedia:en:User:Mr.Z-man)
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Throw a caching layer on top of it. Do a final expansion until final
substitution at the {{cite book}} etc level. Then you've got less to
recursively parse.
-Chad
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