Hoi,
I admire your wish for cleaning up. My question is what are we talking
about. Is this about cluttering up disk space or are these messages in
memory.
Thanks,
GerardM
2009/3/26 <[email protected]>
> >>>>> "SS" == Steve Sanbeg <[email protected]> writes:
>
> SS> maintenance/nukeNS.php was written for pretty much that purpose; to
> purge
> SS> all the obsolete stuff from that namespace without flooding delete
> logs,
> SS> etc.
>
> Alas, looking in
>
> * Remove pages with only 1 revision from the MediaWiki namespace, without
> * flooding recent changes, delete logs, etc.
> * Irreversible (can't use standard undelete) and does not update link
> tables
> *
> * This is mainly useful to run before maintenance/update.php when
> upgrading
> * to 1.9, to prevent flooding recent changes/deletion logs. It's intended
> * to be conservative, so it's possible that a few entries will be left for
> * deletion by the upgrade script. It's also possible that it hasn't been
> * tested thouroughly enough, and will delete something it shouldn't; so
> * back up your DB if there's anything in the MediaWiki that is important
> to
> ^namespace
> * you.
>
> The problem is nukeNS.php was and is never called by update.php!
> Check with ls -ltu (if your access times are tracked in mount(8).)
> It is never referred to by any other file but itself:
> $ find|LC_ALL=C xargs grep -il nukens
> ./maintenance/nukeNS.php
>
> Hence its goal of
> * run before maintenance/update.php when upgrading to 1.9,
> was never achieved!
>
> And, calling it now years later won't help, as update.php invocation
> of deleteDefaultMessages.php has already long ago put the messages
> etc. in the areas of the database where nukeNS.php doesn't look.
>
> Hence I have proved that wikis that have been around since 1.8 will
> have about 1500 rows of useless messages still in the text table, and
> corresponding entries in the archive table.
>
> Sure, on Wikipedia that is a speck of sand, but e.g., on a small quiet
> wiki the vast majority of the rows in the database will be useless
> trash. Repent now!
>
> Another problem for the reader of this thread is "well gosh, has my
> wiki been around since 1.8? How can I tell for sure if my memory is
> hazy?" Well, maybe somebody can mention how to detect that. Maybe
> version increments are logged or should be, for those tracking SVN or
> not. Anyways, you can always just look for those useless entries in
> your database, that ought to tell you if your wiki has been around
> since 1.8.
>
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