Also should be noted a simple patch for oggHandler to output <video> and use the mv_embed library is in the works see: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18869
you can see it in action a few places like http://metavid.org/wiki/File:FolgersCoffe_512kb.1496.ogv Also note my ~soft~ push for native support if you don't already native support. (per our short discussion earlier in this thread) if you say "don't show again" it sets a cookie and won't show it again. I would be happy to randomly link to other browsers that support html5 video tag with ogg as they ship with that functionality. I don't really have apple machine handy to test quality of user experience in OSX safari with xiph-qt. But if that is on-par with Firefox native support we should probably link to the component install instructions for safari users. --michael Gregory Maxwell wrote: > On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 1:54 AM, Aryeh > Gregor<[email protected]> wrote: > [snip] > >> * We could support <video>/<audio> on conformant user agents without >> the use of JavaScript. There's no reason we should need JS for >> Firefox 3.5, Chrome 3, etc. >> > > > Of course, that could be done without switching the rest of the site to > HTML5... > > Although I'm not sure that giving the actual video tags is desirable. > It's a tradeoff: > > Work for those users when JS is enabled and correctly handle saving > the full page including the videos vs take more traffic from clients > doing range requests to generate the poster image, and potentially > traffic from clients which decide to go ahead and fetch the whole > video regardless of the user asking for it. > > There is also still a bug in FF3.5 that where the built-in video > controls do not work when JS is fully disabled. (Because the controls > are written in JS themselves) > > > (To be clear to other people reading this the mediawiki ogghandler > extension already uses HTML5 and works fine with Firefox 3.5, etc. But > this only works if you have javascript enabled. The site could > instead embed the video elements directly, and only use JS to > substitute the video tag for fallbacks when it detects that the video > tag can't be used) > > _______________________________________________ > Wikitech-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
