On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 10:15 PM, Michael Dale<[email protected]> wrote: > Tell the users to complain to Apple? .. Bring up anti-competitive > lawsuits against apple? Buy a Mobil device that is less locked down? > There is no easy solution when the platform is a walled garden. There > are two paths towards supporting html5 video in mobile platforms. > > 1) getting things working within the provided web browser platform > or > 2) running your own browser software as an application (we only should > consider a normal phone obviously on a jail-broken device you can do > lots of things... but that greatly reduces the possibility of wide > deployment) > > I was looking at this situation for the iPhone and Android based phones. > I think android based phones have a better shot at supporting ogg theora > html5 video in the near term. In the long term the market will drive the > devices to support ogg or not. > > iPhone > 1) The internals of the quicktime/media system for the iPhone are not > very exposed nor do they appear to be very extendable. > 2) The Apple SDK agreement forbids virtual machines of any kind. This > effectively makes competing web browsers illegal. > > Android / HTC phones: > 1) I would hope google/android would ship theora/html5 support since > theora will be supported in their desktop webkit based chrome browser. I > think it would be relatively easy for a given android based phone > distributer to support ogg once webkit on android supports html5 video. > 2) Android recently added native code exposure: > http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2009/06/introducing-android-15-ndk-release-1.html > I wonder if this could be a path for a port of Firefox or a custom > version of the open source webkit browser on android? > > --michael > > > David Gerard wrote: >> Another answer - it'd be "custom app" time. >> >> So the question is: what do we tell iPhone users? >> >> >> - d. >> >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Maciej Stachowiak <[email protected]> >> Date: 2009/7/10 >> Subject: Re: [whatwg] Serving up Theora <video> in the real world >> To: David Gerard <[email protected]> >> Cc: WHATWG Proposals <[email protected]> >> >> >> >> On Jul 9, 2009, at 2:59 PM, David Gerard wrote: >> >> >>> The question is what to do for platforms such as the iPhone, which >>> doesn't even run Java. >>> >>> Is there any way to install an additional codec in the iPhone browser? >>> Is it (even theoretically) possible to put a free app on the AppStore >>> just to play Ogg Theora video for our users? (There are many AppStore >>> apps that support Ogg Vorbis, don't know if any support Theora - so >>> presumably AppStore stuff doesn't give Apple the feared submarine >>> patent exposure.) >>> >> >> Just by way of factual information: >> >> There's no Java in the iPhone version of Safari. There are no browser >> plugins. There is no facility for systemwide codec plugins. There is >> no way to get an App Store app to launch automatically from Web >> content. I don't think there is any obstacle to posting an App Store >> app that does nothing but play videos from WikiPedia, the way the >> YouTube app plays YouTube videos. But I don't think there is a way to >> integrate it with browsing. >> >> Regards, >> Maciej >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikitech-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikitech-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l >
Don't want to go OT, but the NDK for Android is *awesome* and opens up a lot of really cool possibilities. -Chad _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
