Hi Greg, I guess you've looked into something else.
openZIM was never hosted on SourceForge, exists since Jan 2009 and its source code has been since then available via our svn on openzim.org (as well as the documentation of the file format). I was the one who blamed Linterweb to have used the open source Zeno implementation (which was the basis of the openZIM foundation) in their Okawix reader application without making the modified code available online. >From a today's perspective my accusitions were wrong - we had a lot of discussion over several month conderning this and I talked to Pascal Martin from Linterweb about this over and over again when the code was NOT available. But finally it has been released, so my statement about the GPL violation is wrong (it was true for many months, though). The only point left was to say that Okawix uses a modified Zeno-format which is not a documented standard. That is why I consider it as being "proprietary" as the goal of openZIM (supported by the Wikimedia Foundation) is to have an open file format, so all data files can be freely exchanged with any reader application. Zeno evolved into ZIM and is much better than Zeno, has an active developers base of many projects which use ZIM in their reader applications. openZIM provides a Free and open source implementation of the ZIM format and is also the project where the standardisation work is being done. So everyone interested in using ZIM or in making suggestions how to improve it can file a bug or post to the openZIM mailinglist. That is exactly what did not work out with Linterweb, which I was refering to as "unable to colaborate". I am very happy to see that changing. I hope I could clarify some points now. I really don't want to go that flaming on further, but I think happy news should be named here as well as a counterweight to my earlier statements. More information can be found here: http://wikimania2009.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proceedings:96 http://wikimania2009.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:200908271434-Manuel_Schneider-openZIM_serving_the_Wikipedia_Offline_Projects.ogg http://openzim.org/ http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Offline_readers /Manuel Am 3.9.2009 schrieb "Gregory Maxwell" <[email protected]>: >On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 4:09 AM, Gerard >Meijssen<[email protected]> wrote: >> Hoi, >> I have read your mail and it does not address the point that I am making at >> all. What you write is not relevant as it does not address the central >> issue. The central issue is that you accuse another project of infringement >> on the GPL and you assert that it is proprietary software. >>count > >Gerard, please stop harassing this person. It is a disgrace. > >Some months ago I went looking for the zim format and reader tool and >was unable to find the source and concluded that it was proprietary. I >did not know that it was based on GPLed software or I would have been >making noise myself. > >The sourceforge project has only existed since *May*. The code has >only ever been downloaded 63 times, twice by me and there are zero >packaged files released. The sourceforge page does not show up high in >google search. That the source is now released is a great thing, but >it would have been very easy to miss. > >Making sure the incorrect statement were corrected is a good thing but >you and Siebrand are coming across as extremely hostile. I am not >even the target of your harassment and yet it makes my skin crawl. >Please discontinue it. > >_______________________________________________ >Wikitech-l mailing list >[email protected] >https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
