Will it be enabled by default on all wikis, or only on wikis which made
individual requests?

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 5:03 AM, Andrew Garrett <[email protected]>wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> With the Foundation's support, I've spent the last few months churning
> away at LiquidThreads [1], a new discussion system that is proposed for
> use on Wikimedia projects.
>
> Essentially, it's an attempt to marry the radical openness of the wiki
> paradigm with the usability and practicality of a forum-like system. As
> the name implies, LiquidThreads is designed to allow any user to easily
> refactor discussions while maintaining edit history, to edit other
> users' comments, and to collaborate on a summary of an ongoing
> discussion. LiquidThreads also brings many standard communication
> features lacking from wiki discussion pages, such as watching and
> protecting individual discussion threads, RSS feeds of comments in a
> discussion or on a discussion page. In the world of online
> communication, its approach is entirely unique.
>
> LiquidThreads has been in alpha testing on Wikimedia Labs [2] for
> several months, and, more recently, it's been used in a production
> context on the strategy wiki, where it has been quite well-received.
> It's been easy to run these smaller trials, as the extension allows the
> activation and deactivation of LiquidThreads discussions on individual
> pages with a simple parser function.
>
> While there are still some issues remaining before wider trials, I
> believe I can resolve most of them quite quickly (within a few weeks
> when my vacation finishes at the end of next month), and I'd like to get
> the ball rolling in proposing small-scale trials on some of the larger
> wikis, so that a full discussion can be had, and so that adjustments can
> be made on the basis of ongoing feedback. I'd especially like to see
> LiquidThreads used on some of the higher-traffic discussion pages on
> English Wikipedia (such as the technical village pump), and progressive
> rollout on some of our mid to large sized wikis.
>
> So, I'd like to encourage you to have a play with LiquidThreads, either
> on the strategy wiki or on the test site (which generally runs a newer
> version). Tell me what you like about it, and (far more importantly)
> what improvements you think it needs before we can expand our trials to
> wider parts of the Wikimedia Universe, and perhaps move towards a full
> rollout of this very exciting technology.
>
> I should give the following caveats about LiquidThreads as it stands.
> These are all issues that I intend to address before any trial expansion
> occurs.
> * Presently the system is somewhat vulnerable to abuse. I intend to make
> changes to the way signatures work, and improve tracking and listing of
> thread actions by specific users.
> * While LiquidThreads allows for thread summaries and discussion
> headers, the system does not currently have support for
> collaboratively-edited posts which are unsigned or signed by a group of
> people. These are a key piece of any decision-making framework, and I
> intend to make adjustments to make this possible.
> * There is no support for embedding LiquidThreads discussion pages on
> other pages.
> * There are plenty of minor interface issues which I intend to clean up.
>
> Feedback is best directed to the dedicated Feedback page [3], or,
> alternatively, to bugzilla [4] (although before filing a bug, you should
> check the list of existing LiquidThreads bugs [5]).
>
> [1] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:LiquidThreads
> [2] http://liquidthreads.labs.wikimedia.org
> [3] http://liquidthreads.labs.wikimedia.org/wiki/Feedback
> [4]
>
> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=MediaWiki%20extensions&component=LiquidThreads
> [5]
>
> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?product=MediaWiki%20extensions&component=LiquidThreads&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED
>
>
> --
> Andrew Garrett
> [email protected]
> http://werdn.us
>
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