On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 5:57 PM, Rob Lanphier <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 1:09 PM, Neil Kandalgaonkar <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> This is interesting. I'm going to look more into what you've been doing
>> over the weekend. But in the meantime I have a related question.
>>
>> I've been working (quietly) on Multimedia Usability, and one major issue
>> with the whole design of multimedia on mediawiki, IMO, is the unity of
>> storage filename, URL, and title.
>>
>> Since you've gone halfway there, how hard would it be to break these
>> dependencies entirely?
>>
>
> This work is definitely a step in that direction, and probably not too much
> more dev work to go all of the way.  The test/bugfix cycle is what worries
> me the most, for reasons that probably are the same for any feature in this
> area.
>

Luckily the FileRepo code isn't nearly as scary as the Parser, and I have
a pretty good grasp of it. I haven't reviewed the patches in question, but I
can do so. I really don't want us to jump into this too quickly and find out
we've made a bad decision...so let's slow it down a few notches :p

I know the patch/review process can be a bit trying at times, especially
when you hear no feedback. I've been asked before what it takes to get
a bug/patch/branch reviewed and if I've learned nothing in the past few
years it's this: persistence. You have to drive your change and see it
through. Posting a bug (sadly) isn't usually enough to get the right
people's attention. Maybe it's a lack of resources, Bugzilla sucking, who
knows. Anyway...

> Decoupling the filename from the URL/Title would involve not only storing
> file extensions in the database, but full filenames, which would result in a
> few more megabytes of database space on commons.  There's been quite a bit
> of debate in Bugzilla since yesterday about the database modifications and
> the merits of the feature generally:
> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4421#c51
>
>

It would also open up the possibility of storing uploads in the database,
also a long-standing feature request for third parties[0]. I don't really
agree with stripping the file extensions necessarily (I've said my share
on the bug), but I do agree that decoupling URL/Title/Filename (at least
separate the filename/path) would be a good direction to go in the long
term.

>
>> Also, I want a pony.
>
>
> Not before I get my unicorn.

I took the liberty of opening an enhancement request for Neal's
pony (which I would also like), but Aryeh pointed out that we
might be facing some legal and logistical issues in doing so.

-Chad

[0] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/363
[1] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/23029

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