On 03.09.2010, 4:40 Roan wrote:

>> * Shut down #wikimedia-dev (formerly #wikipedia_usability, kind of).
>> The explicit purpose of the channel is to allow development discussion
>> with less noise, but "noise" here means community involvement.  In
>> community development, you do get a lot more discussion, but that's
>> not something you should try avoiding.  In general, use existing
>> discussion fora wherever possible, and if you do fragment them, make
>> sure you don't have too much of a staff-volunteer split in which fora
>> people use.
> No, "noise" means bots and people trying to support people with
> questions like "how do I disable anon reads on my wiki" as opposed to
> developers (paid and unpaid alike) being engaged in a design
> discussion. Maybe #wikimedia-dev should be renamed to #mediawiki-dev
> to remove the suggestion of WMF-exclusivity, but I definitely see the
> value of a channel dedicated to communication between developers with
> support questions and bots kept out.

It should ultimately be decided whether MediaWiki is a software
developed by an open community for everyone to use, or just a software
that runs Wikipedia and is sporadically released to public only for
lulz and Wikia? If it's the latter, such "noise" is indeed unwanted.
If the former, this chit-chat is vital to being a part of the community.



-- 
Best regards,
  Max Semenik ([[User:MaxSem]])


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