Aloha MZMcBride, Greetings All,

Thanks for the nudge!  Feedback is an essential part of a healthy
feedback loop. :)

On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 20:43, MZMcBride <[email protected]> wrote:
> Nobody seems to have replied to this thread in about a week, which I think
> indicates a problem, so I'm gonna poke a bit here.

The report is on my radar
(http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Zakgreant/Log/2010-09-23), but is
just one of many things that I should be doing.  I'll take a look in
at the page in a few minutes. For my part, I'm keeping my daily logs
and weekly reports as a way to help ensure that interested folks can
follow along with what I'm working on.

...

>> For October, we'd like to draft this in public so as to get the
>> information out a little sooner, and to give you all the opportunity
>> to help out.  Here's where we're drafting this:
>> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/WMF_Engineering_Overview_October_2010
>
> There's been no activity on that page since September 23 (a few hours after
> this thread was started). It's nearly October 1. To me, that indicates a
> problem.

What kind of problem(s) do you feel that there are?

...

> The current reality is that the paid developers/sysadmins have been isolated
> from the community. You seem to be essentially asking people to guess or
> make-up the current status of a lot of these projects, most of which aren't
> even known about outside paid developers/sysadmins (the Virginia data
> center, improved ops monitoring, etc.).

For my part, I thought that this was RobLa nudging everyone in the
know – staff included, as they should be on this list – to update.
He's also nudged me directly to do my part. I'd guess that he's done
this with others as well.

> Wikimedia has been having weekly (or fortnightly) status meetings about most
> of the items you listed on MediaWiki.org, but the notes are being held on
> Wikimedia's installation of EtherPad. Either document this EtherPad
> installation (I'm not even sure if the URL is supposed to be public, so I'll
> omit it here) or stop using it and post all of the notes directly on
> MediaWiki.org. These notes in EtherPad are (by far) the most up-to-date and
> helpful pages for tracking the status of projects that I've seen, but I
> doubt more than a dozen people outside of Wikimedia Foundation staff have
> any idea they exist. Though, perhaps a bit ironically, I haven't seen (m)any
> ops-related notes on EtherPad, as far as I remember, so that still might be
> an area in which only one or two people can give an accurate update.

I took notes during the last general engineering team meeting. I
thought that consensus was to publish them.

I'll nudge folks asap to get that done or at least sorted out.

...

Cheers!
-- 
Zak Greant (Wikimedia Foundation Contractor)
Plans, reports + logs at http://mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Zakgreant

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