> There's a parallel talk into it chapter  about gender gap. This gap is part
> of a larger gap involving software  development in general; there are few
> programmer women. I presume, that this  highlights a similarity between wiki
> and a software development environment;  and really many from most
> enthusiast, and productive contributors are too  programmers.
> 
> But... as you know, the profile of a programmer is far from  the profile of a
> woman; consider the famous statement "The three chief  virtues of a
> programmer are: Laziness, Impatience and Hubris.". Then consider  the pedia
> statement  "Be bold!", that is a gentler way to name "hubris".  :-)
> 
> Is gender gap so  mysterious?
> 
> Alex

I would disagree with "Be Bold" = Hubris  I have always thought "Be Bold" as 
being about being comfortable with making mistakes.  I certainly would consider 
myself "bold" in general and more bold than the average woman in practical 
terms 
on the wiki, but I still very much feel the Midwestern US taboo against 
thinking 
too well of oneself and self-promoting which hubris should overcome. In my 
experience boldness comes from a different place; that of having a trial and 
error mentality to approaching the world in general.  But I suppose boldness 
could come from thinking oneself superior also.  



> On 02/09/2011 11:18 PM, DaB.  wrote:
> > sure. I asked the toolserver-database:
> >
> >  en.wikipedia:
> > Male: 233312
> > Femaile: 46973
> > All user:  13959842
> 
<snip>
> 
> Now, if a woman uses a male pseudonym,
> she  would obviously self-declare as a man,
> so we can't know if this correlates to  real
> gender. We could only measure the setting.
> 

I would hesitate to judge what might be a male pseudonym. In my experience any 
pseudonym, given it is not displayed in pink or the userpage is not covered in 
hearts or something, will be treated as male.  I never intended to self-declare 
as male, but was treated as male for many years.  I did consciously decide to 
accept what I perceived as the benefits of being treated as male and not 
correct 
anyone.  When someone years ago raised the argument that the lack of visibly 
female Wikipedians might be a barrier to larger numbers of women joining 
Wikipedia, I changed the coloring of my signature and don't remember being 
treated as male since then.

Birgitte SB



      

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