On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 6:47 PM, Erik Moeller <[email protected]> wrote:
> For all your meta-history needs: > > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/9/11_wiki_move_proposal > > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_closing_projects/Archive/September_11_Wiki > > and related links. > > Also: > > http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2006-September/023757.html > > http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2006-September/023819.html;-) > Indeed -- as long as the data's accessible I'm content enough - http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2006-September/023835.html:) Since then though we've removed it from the data dumps, so it's no longer possible for third parties to recover and host the pages (or do research on them) unless they happen to find a copy, and our own redirect points to a site that's down. It's too bad (if not entirely surprising) that the external site is no > longer up; in the interest of preserving history I'd support archiving > a static HTML or read-only wiki (ideally with minimal skin) copy under > some subdirectory URL (dumps.wikimedia.org/whatever ). If we want to > do a nicer job at it, we might start making a bit of a space for these > collected pieces of wiki-history (Joseph Reagle's Wikipedia 10K Redux > derived from the first dumps would be another candidate: > http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/~reagle/wp-redux/ ) > *nod* It's probably easier to set up a read-only wiki with similar configuration to nostalgia.wikipedia.org and slurp in the last dump than it will be to get static HTML dumping to work right. This would also put the sep11 pages back into the downloadable data dumps, always in whatever the current format is, which I think has a maintenance benefit over making it a separate sui generis download that might get forgotten/deleted in the future (or just fall out of date with format changes). But, let's please not reactivate sep11.wikipedia.org as anything other > than a redirect to a different URL, to avoid confusion of > readers/visitors coming in through search engines (even if we run a > big banner explaining that it's archived for historical purposes, it's > still likely to be confusing to folks under that domain name). > > It does look like the Internet Archive nabbed a full copy of it from > sep11memories.org (which had the final cleaned up version of the > wiki). > http://web.archive.org/web/20080807125041/http://www.sep11memories.org/ > As long as we keep it online and don't throw it away, I would very much appreciate keeping it online in some form and keeping a redirect from the old sep11.wikipedia.org URL. If we can't get that organized immediately, I'd recommend at least putting in a redirect to the Wayback Machine URL asap -- we're just a few days from the 10th anniversary of the attacks, a very relevant time for people who might want to link to and comment on the old pages. -- brion _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
