Brion, Patrick and I chatted about this and we have an initial game plan
for this. I'll publish the notes on wiki in a couple after we clean them up.

Rough notes are here : http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/MobileFrontendChanges

--tomasz

On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 4:20 PM, Gregory Varnum <[email protected]>wrote:

> The "this is what we have and it's better than nothing" has generally been
> my approach - and I've heard that from others as well.  I haven't
> personally worked on any wikis in a few years where mobile use didn't come
> up (not much talk of it when I was using a Treo).  However, I have no idea
> how widespread or common that may be.  :)
>
> Improvements to make this more usable by 3rd party wikis would be
> fantastic!
>
> -greg aka varnent
>
>
> On Jan 9, 2012, at 3:00 PM, Quim Gil wrote:
>
> > Hi Brion,
> >
> > Short term:
> >
> > I believe a lot of MediaWiki based sites would welcome a simple way to
> > present their content in mobile interfaces. A combo of browser
> > autodetection and mobile friendly skin would do the trick (this is how
> > the Wordpress community is addressing the problem). Is Mobile Frontend
> > extension is what we have here and now then this is better then
> > nothing.
> >
> > Longer term:
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 11:03 AM, Brion Vibber <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> * Does anybody actually want to use MobileFrontend to implement a
> >> feature-phone gateway on other sites?
> >
> > (...)
> >
> >> * Do people intend primarily to make the wiki's user interface more
> >> friendly to modern smartphones, without caring about feature phones?
> >>
> >> If so, then moving to the next generation
> >
> > I'm not aware of the next generation plans you are referring to, but
> > you also need to take into account the "next generation" context for
> > smartphone vs feature-phone - which is precisely about the blurring of
> > that division. Cheaper devices with internet capabilities, bigger/full
> > screen and even touch are reaching more geographies. Pretty fast, for
> > phones and tablets.
> >
> > If you want to set a division then maybe you want to set it not
> > between "dumb" and "smart" devices (meaning cheap and expensive in
> > fact) but between passive and active users:
> >
> > - A majority will want just to consume content, share it, rate it,
> > perhaps subscribe to it and leave a short comment - regardless of the
> > "smartness" or price of their device.
> >
> > - A very important minority will want to engage deeper and contribute,
> > also with their mobile devices on the go.
> >
> > Can we assume that you need an expensive smartphone and Internet plan
> > to be more active in MediaWiki sites? I don't think so, but we should
> > go down to features to see exactly what type pf device requirements
> > are we talking about.
> >
> > --
> > Quim
> >
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