Hi Lars

It's true that even my personal computer has like 4 times bigger storage
than toolserver's home directory, but question is if someone ever
considered if it's necessary to extend /home or quotas there. The cluster
was set up in times when disk storage wasn't so big as now, and since then
probably no one requested increase of quotas there. I am a very "old
school" coder, and my programs, mostly written in c* languages are usually
very small and eat almost no ram and disk space, so I wasn't really
concerned as well, when I requested an account there that I have only 256
mb for my data (until now it's enough for me and I run 4 bots and several
tools on english wikipedia). wmf and volunteers like me are now working on
set up of wikimedia labs, a new virtual cluster which is more modern than
toolserver, running on linux instead of solaris and has even better options
for developers including more resources.

If you are interested in labs, there is an info on mediawiki in [[Wikimedia
Labs]] and there will be probably soon "online conference" (probably on
saturday) on labs channel on the irc dedicated to labs where you could be
easily introduced to whole virtual cluster we are now working on. It's
already available for people, but only limited number of services is
working right now, and a lot of stuff needs to be properly configured.
However I must say that labs is a perfect environment for any developer
which offers more than just larger /home directory ;-)

On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Lars Aronsson <[email protected]> wrote:

> In December I wrote a cron job on the German toolserver, to collect
> statistics on external links. It works fine, but to be useful I must
> collect data over time, so I made a cron job to run each Monday morning.
>
> While my attention was elsewhere, believing that this was running,
> it turns out the 256 Mbyte quota (!) made all my files 0 bytes
> in length for all of January. I have now requested and gotten an
> increased quota, but 6 weeks of data have been lost. And I must
> devote time to check my quota every week or two.
>
> The /home disk is 600 GB of which 88 GB is free. That's not per user,
> but for all users together. It should come as a surprise to most
> people who donate money to the Wikimedia Foundation, that all of its
> volunteer developers have to share a disk the size of what is found
> in any laptop. According to an IRC discussion, some new disks that
> were planned to arrive in mid January have not yet been delivered.
> I have no idea what amount of disk has been ordered, or whether the
> quota system will be kept. I get the impression that this doesn't
> really matter to anybody.
>
> This is the development system for the world's 6th most visited
> website in 2012. It quite doesn't live up to my expectations.
> It feels more like some hobby project in 2002. I'm a great fan
> of hobby projects, but with the current budget of WMDE and WMF,
> I thought we would have reached a higher ambition level by now.
>
>
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>  Lars Aronsson ([email protected])
>  Aronsson Datateknik - http://aronsson.se
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