On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 4:46 PM, Diederik van Liere <[email protected]>wrote:

> I don't think we should aim to cater to non-developers at all. The changes
> that a non-developer finds a real bug are very very small (in my previous
> life as an academic I have done a lot of research on Bugzilla and developer
> productivity and it's based on that experience that I am making this
> statement). I think that if a newbie / non-developer finds bugzilla then he
> /she should be redirected to either IRC / Teahouse / Talk pages / FAQ or
> any other support channel that we have. They can always be send back to
> file a bug report.
>
> I'm not questioning your experiences in development overall, but in the
specific context of Wikimedia I've found a big pile o'bugs through user
intervention. With New Page Triage/New Pages Feed alone, 16 bugs and
enhancements were identified in the first 24 hours, all from non-technical
editors. That number has continued to grow - again, from non-technical
users.

If we direct them to other support channels, the bug *still* has to end up
in bugzilla. The only difference is we're relying on developers, technical
users, the bugmeister and others to constantly monitor and look at a
plethora of channels and report things, which'll suck in their time and add
another link to the chain. Every time you add relays, data gets lost.
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