Welcome aboard, Munaf! I look forward to working with you soon,
Fabrice __________________________________ Fabrice Florin Product Manager, Editor Engagement Wikimedia Foundation +1 (415) 839-6885 ext. 6827 work +1 (415) 860-6484 mobile [email protected] We help engage editors on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Editor_Engagement On Jun 4, 2012, at 11:03 PM, [email protected] wrote: > From: Steven Walling <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Welcoming Munaf Assaf, UX Designer > Date: June 4, 2012 4:43:52 PM PDT > To: Wikimedia developers <[email protected]> > Cc: Munaf Assaf <[email protected]> > Reply-To: Wikimedia developers <[email protected]> > > > On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 3:40 PM, Howie Fung <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Everyone, >> >> I’m pleased to welcome Munaf Assaf, a new member of the Product Group. >> Munaf is starting today as UX Designer and will work mainly on the >> Editor Engagement Experiments projects. Almost all of these projects >> have a user-facing component, and Munaf will help us design interfaces >> to make these experiments and features more user-friendly. >> >> Munaf joins us from the University of Michigan (UM), where he worked >> as a Research Associate in the Office of Enabling Technologies. At UM, >> he worked on a variety of projects, including mobile informatics >> applications and engagement tools for visiting hospital patients. His >> most recent project was the design of a high-tech collaboration space >> in conjunction with the Taubman School of Architecture. Earlier in his >> career, Munaf was an Algorithm Design Engineer at General Motors, >> where he worked on control systems for improving vehicle fuel >> efficiency. >> >> He has a BS in Electrical Engineering from Kettering University, as >> well as an MSI in Human-Computer Interaction from the University of >> Michigan at Ann Arbor. For more information on his background, please >> see his public profile [1]. >> >> Please join me in welcoming Munaf! >> >> Howie >> >> [1] http://www.linkedin.com/in/munafassaf >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikitech-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l >> > > Welcome Munaf! Glad to have you on the team. :) > > Steven > > > > > From: John Du Hart <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Facebook grabs the Mediawiki logo instead of the > site logo > Date: June 4, 2012 4:47:55 PM PDT > To: Wikimedia developers <[email protected]> > Reply-To: Wikimedia developers <[email protected]> > > > Yeah I remember that. > On Jun 4, 2012 7:45 PM, "Chad" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 7:35 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Here Facebook grabs the Mediawiki logo instead of the site logo. >>> >>> >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/tg.taiwan/permalink/374509135949001/?comment_id=374537129279535&offset=0&total_comments=1 >>> >>> Doing the same experiment with e.g., >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1st_clan_chief , >>> a page also without any user embedded images, >>> oddly does not cause the mediawiki logo to be chosen. >>> >>> Though it does not choose the site logo, at least it doesn't choose the >>> mediawiki logo. >>> >> >> Didn't we discuss this almost a year ago? >> >> Indeed, we did: >> http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mediawiki-l/2011-July/037710.html >> >> -Chad >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikitech-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l >> > > > > > From: Nasir Khan <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Welcoming Munaf Assaf, UX Designer > Date: June 4, 2012 6:29:54 PM PDT > To: Wikimedia developers <[email protected]> > Reply-To: Wikimedia developers <[email protected]> > > > Congrats :) > On Jun 5, 2012 5:44 AM, "Steven Walling" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 3:40 PM, Howie Fung <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Everyone, >>> >>> I’m pleased to welcome Munaf Assaf, a new member of the Product Group. >>> Munaf is starting today as UX Designer and will work mainly on the >>> Editor Engagement Experiments projects. Almost all of these projects >>> have a user-facing component, and Munaf will help us design interfaces >>> to make these experiments and features more user-friendly. >>> >>> Munaf joins us from the University of Michigan (UM), where he worked >>> as a Research Associate in the Office of Enabling Technologies. At UM, >>> he worked on a variety of projects, including mobile informatics >>> applications and engagement tools for visiting hospital patients. His >>> most recent project was the design of a high-tech collaboration space >>> in conjunction with the Taubman School of Architecture. Earlier in his >>> career, Munaf was an Algorithm Design Engineer at General Motors, >>> where he worked on control systems for improving vehicle fuel >>> efficiency. >>> >>> He has a BS in Electrical Engineering from Kettering University, as >>> well as an MSI in Human-Computer Interaction from the University of >>> Michigan at Ann Arbor. For more information on his background, please >>> see his public profile [1]. >>> >>> Please join me in welcoming Munaf! >>> >>> Howie >>> >>> [1] http://www.linkedin.com/in/munafassaf >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikitech-l mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l >>> >> >> Welcome Munaf! Glad to have you on the team. :) >> >> Steven >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikitech-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l >> > > > > > From: Ori Livneh <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Welcoming Munaf Assaf, UX Designer > Date: June 4, 2012 10:04:41 PM PDT > To: Wikimedia developers <[email protected]> > Reply-To: Wikimedia developers <[email protected]> > > > On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 3:40 PM, Howie Fung <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> Please join me in welcoming Munaf! >> >> > Hi Munaf! Glad you're here. > > > > > From: Ori Livneh <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Give create gerrit repo right to all WMF engineers > Date: June 4, 2012 10:50:50 PM PDT > To: Wikimedia developers <[email protected]> > Reply-To: Wikimedia developers <[email protected]> > > > On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 8:41 AM, Chad <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> So yeah, its not as easy as it sounds on the tin, so I don't want to hand >> this out en masse. In an ideal world, I want us to have a special page >> where people can request repos and we can automate the icky backend stuff. >> > > If it isn't easy, let's make it easy. I'm a new developer and not having a > repository to develop in has been absolutely paralyzing. (I requested one > on May 23, for what it's worth). > > Gerrit is not just an SCM: there is a rapidly growing ecosystem of services > that integrate with it -- and if your code isn't there, you're persona non > grata. I've whipped up two iterations of a data collection backend for my > team and got it set up on a labs instance, but that was a week ago, and > since then things are at a standstill. It's been hard to get anyone to look > at it, because everyone's workflow and attentional habits are interwoven > with Gerrit now. > > This particular side-project is a useful illustration of another important > point: Git's usefulness isn't limited to managing mature projects like > Mediawiki -- it has a crucial role to play in the earliest stages of > development, too. I have no idea if what I wrote is usable and scalable, > and it would've been good to get some feedback early. In the past, I have > found it useful and productive to whip up quick prototypes and put them up > on GitHub for feedback, instead of trading in inchoate ideas, or sitting on > them until the ideas feel mature (which *never* happens for me until I sit > down and start writing code). The ideas that stick get developed into > full-fledged products. Using Git in this way has been such a tremendous > boon for me as a developer, and not having that has been really frustrating. > > I don't think expanding git-creation rights to a few more individuals goes > far enough, because the point at which you need a repository is antecedent > to the point in time at which you feel comfortable describing your work to > someone. For cool projects to happen, people need to feel empowered to > start repos for projects that seem speculative and maybe even a little > silly, and that won't happen when you make it necessary to ask for > permission. > > At this point I expect someone to come along and point out that you don't > need Gerrit to start a Git repository -- "git init" will suffice. And > that's true, as long as you don't need to collaborate with anyone, or > develop on more than one machine (say rsync & I'll bop you on the head!), > or have stable urls to share with people. > > > > > From: Jeremy Baron <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Give create gerrit repo right to all WMF engineers > Date: June 4, 2012 11:00:49 PM PDT > To: Wikimedia developers <[email protected]> > Reply-To: Wikimedia developers <[email protected]> > > > On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 1:50 AM, Ori Livneh <[email protected]> wrote: >> If it isn't easy, let's make it easy. I'm a new developer and not having a >> repository to develop in has been absolutely paralyzing. (I requested one >> on May 23, for what it's worth). >> >> Gerrit is not just an SCM: there is a rapidly growing ecosystem of services >> that integrate with it -- and if your code isn't there, you're persona non >> grata. I've whipped up two iterations of a data collection backend for my >> team and got it set up on a labs instance, but that was a week ago, and >> since then things are at a standstill. It's been hard to get anyone to look >> at it, because everyone's workflow and attentional habits are interwoven >> with Gerrit now. >> >> This particular side-project is a useful illustration of another important >> point: Git's usefulness isn't limited to managing mature projects like >> Mediawiki -- it has a crucial role to play in the earliest stages of >> development, too. I have no idea if what I wrote is usable and scalable, >> and it would've been good to get some feedback early. In the past, I have >> found it useful and productive to whip up quick prototypes and put them up >> on GitHub for feedback, instead of trading in inchoate ideas, or sitting on >> them until the ideas feel mature (which *never* happens for me until I sit >> down and start writing code). The ideas that stick get developed into >> full-fledged products. Using Git in this way has been such a tremendous >> boon for me as a developer, and not having that has been really frustrating. >> >> I don't think expanding git-creation rights to a few more individuals goes >> far enough, because the point at which you need a repository is antecedent >> to the point in time at which you feel comfortable describing your work to >> someone. For cool projects to happen, people need to feel empowered to >> start repos for projects that seem speculative and maybe even a little >> silly, and that won't happen when you make it necessary to ask for >> permission. >> >> At this point I expect someone to come along and point out that you don't >> need Gerrit to start a Git repository -- "git init" will suffice. And >> that's true, as long as you don't need to collaborate with anyone, or >> develop on more than one machine (say rsync & I'll bop you on the head!), >> or have stable urls to share with people. > > I mostly agree with what you've said. > > Just wanted to point out gerrit projects (aka repos) can never be > destroyed. so if you e.g. typo or rename a project or kill it 5 days > after you started it's still there forever. Only very recently have we > even been able to hide projects from project listings in the UI. > > -Jeremy > > > > > > From: Ori Livneh <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Give create gerrit repo right to all WMF engineers > Date: June 4, 2012 11:13:24 PM PDT > To: Wikimedia developers <[email protected]> > Reply-To: Wikimedia developers <[email protected]> > > > On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 11:00 PM, Jeremy Baron <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I mostly agree with what you've said. >> >> Just wanted to point out gerrit projects (aka repos) can never be >> destroyed. so if you e.g. typo or rename a project or kill it 5 days >> after you started it's still there forever. Only very recently have we >> even been able to hide projects from project listings in the UI. >> > > Isn't the same basically true of Wiki articles? I understand the desire to > keep things tidy, okay. But what would be the big deal about having ten or > even a hundred thousand abandoned repositories, so long as they are hidden, > and do not clutter the UI? The repositories that would be candidates for > deletion are the ones that got no further than an initial stab, and those > measure in kilobytes. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikitech-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
