On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 6:43 PM, Krinkle <[email protected]> wrote:
> Replies inline:
>
> On Jun 28, 2012, at 7:38 PM, Jon Robson wrote:
>
>> # "things rely on those inline styles whether we like it or not."
>> No... They rely on styles not //inline// styles. This is my main
>> problem with the current setup! I believe the majority of things done
>> in inline styles that are essential would be better done in
>> MediaWiki:Common.css - if we have text that is red this would be
>> better down with a class markedRed otherwise some text risks being red
>> or and other text #BE3B3B despite meaning the same thing. Most layout
>> problems on mobile can be fixed with media queries. You can't do these
>> in inline styles.
>>
>
> Hold on, we're in misunderstanding :). We agree.
>
> So, they *do* rely on inline styles. But when I said "they rely" I meant: they
> currently use them to do something that should not be removed. You won't hear 
> me
> say we "need" inline styles (there is not a single layout best done through
> inline styles). I'm saying they are in use - right now - and fulfilling valid
> needs to the point that they can break or make an article.
>
> Obviously they should become css classes loaded through modules like
> MediaWiki:Common.css and what not. I will +1 any movement towards deprecating
> them entirely from wikitext in MediaWii core. But not for just for mobile and
> not without at least a year of migration time for live sites (possibly with an
> opt-in feature before that for users to preview articles without inline styles
> to help fixing them).

Yes, please, because fixing things such as (put your sunglasses first)
https://pt.wikipedia.org/?oldid=30926886&action=edit&section=3&preview=yes&uselang=en
is a PITA and will take years! (there are tons of it!)

Best regards,
Helder

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